Chavez lost that referendum

in our group the people who most get singled out as the brainy thinkers, most prolific writers and public loud mouths are not especially representative of the group as a whole... more often than not it is the college educated types, people who are most bi-lingually fluent, the most confident public speakers, etc. (which usually goes side by side with gender and/or class privilege). I assume its the same for alot of political groups.

Smash Rich Bastards wrote:

in our group the people who most get singled out as the brainy thinkers, most prolific writers and public loud mouths are not especially representative of the group as a whole... more often than not it is the college educated types, people who are most bi-lingually fluent, the most confident public speakers, etc. (which usually goes side by side with gender and/or class privilege). I assume its the same for alot of political groups.

Off topic of the thread, but whatever. I'm under the impression that MJ has tried to work around this a bit as NEA editor, encouraging people to just put something down in words and then working with them to help them polish it up more. (Am I right?) Even if it hasn't worked perfectly like that, I think it's a great idea and something that should happen more often.

EdmontonWobbly wrote:

Well I'll be open about where I got my info: It's entirely based on reading their material. Even translated it reads as pretty academic. Also the stances they take (like against the 36 hour week with no loss in pay) are pretty weak. To be honest the guy in the IS review article seems to take a better stance than a lot of what I've read in El Libertario.

I'll take people who have actually met them at their word, but still they don't have very good politics and I don't know why so many people are supporting them. I really think its more so that the anarchists have a 'team' to cheer for. Still though I stand corrected.

I agree with your criticism (unless there is missing info about the proposed work reduction that I am not aware of), but it's a huge leap to go from there to: "El Libertario are a bunch of college student wankers and people from the extremely priviledged strata of the working class."

Like they let anarcho-capitalists and individualist in?

Nate wrote:

Smash Rich Bastards wrote:

in our group the people who most get singled out as the brainy thinkers, most prolific writers and public loud mouths are not especially representative of the group as a whole... more often than not it is the college educated types, people who are most bi-lingually fluent, the most confident public speakers, etc. (which usually goes side by side with gender and/or class privilege). I assume its the same for alot of political groups.

Off topic of the thread, but whatever. I'm under the impression that MJ has tried to work around this a bit as NEA editor, encouraging people to just put something down in words and then working with them to help them polish it up more. (Am I right?) Even if it hasn't worked perfectly like that, I think it's a great idea and something that should happen more often.

That's been one of the ideal goals of the current editors, and I would assume it was one of the previous editors' too. It's an uphill battle though, since even if we were better at being proactive about it, we'd still have trouble talking some members into writing while other members would be handing us finished, polished articles without being asked to. SRB is right.

Definitely getting off topic, but I'd like to hear from folks in other organizations about building writers within their org / through their propaganda. What works? Co-researching and co-authoring articles? Making members write at least one article a year? Writing as part of internal education? Practice through writing short bits for agitationals? Etc.

they are synthesists? Fucking what. Like they let anarcho-capitalists and individualists in?