Clerical Unions? Sweet Jesus!
Jun 13 2008 06:43
In news of the weird...
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In particular, some time ago, 20 priests filed documents to Iasi court for incorporation of the "Holy Virgin Protection" trade union. Later, 35 clerics from Oltenia province declared the official incorporation of the independent "Good Pastor" trade union and their intent to hold a strike action aimed at protecting their rights."There is an abyss between the church hierarchy and the priests who serve in churches. We are put under pressure, and have already lost some of our members," priest Nikolay State, vice-president of Good Pastor, said in his interview to the Gyndyl newspaper.
Jun 13 2008 07:18
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Lots of vicars are members of Amicus.
Jun 13 2008 08:23
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The United Church in Canada had their ministers run a certification election with the CAW but failed.
Jun 13 2008 08:37
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The leader of the main Imams union.
Their website: http://diyanet-sen.org.tr/
They have 36,000 members.
Devrim
Jun 13 2008 09:20
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I know SAC have a handful of members in churches, there have even been some conflicts in the god factory, but no pickets so far.
Jun 13 2008 09:34
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Do their bosses tell them suffering in the here and now breeds character for judgement day?
Jun 13 2008 11:10
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I don't see whats weird about priests being unionised? Good for them.
Jun 13 2008 20:47
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Whats weird about it is the consistently anti-working class nature of most religions. Now obviously, we do have more left-wing varieties, and ones more sympathetic, but that doesn't change the fact that overwhelmingly the job of religions is to get souls to give up everything now for bliss later.
Jun 13 2008 22:13
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I just joined a clericals union yesterday. CUE - The Union for Clericals at UC
Jun 14 2008 05:12
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I just joined a clericals union yesterday. CUE - The Union for Clericals at UC
Social Democrat. 
Jun 14 2008 21:42
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Ah, there's like 8 better jokes you could have made - called me a sky pilot, or asked how many 3rd-level spells i'd learned...
Jun 14 2008 21:46
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Some years ago we ran a satirical peice in Black Flag about a fictional Religious Orders Industrial Network, with comments like "the Deity Mafia get away with it all the time". Shortly afterwards, MSF as it then was (now the Amicus part of Unite) started recruiting sky-pilots.
Albert Meltzer always used to joke about the originators of British Trotskyism, Father Stuart Purkis and others, who were mainly anglo-catholic priests. They ended up joining the Railway Clerks union as, at the time it was the nearest thing to sky pilots.
Though perhaps it's simply those who work for the religious who need organising
http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/newsarticleview.asp?article=2450
Regards,
Martin
Jun 14 2008 21:49
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OliverTwister wrote:
Ah, there's like 8 better jokes you could have made - called me a sky pilot, or asked how many 3rd-level spells i'd learned...
I really do think they should pay you people more for Cure Light Wounds. I mean, they treat you like HP ATMs, and what do you get out of it? Diddly squat. Everything goes to the Church, where it's spent on giving those high-ranking bishops Bottles of Everlasting Lubricant, or whatever it is they squander public money on these days...
Jun 14 2008 21:52
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Actually, there was a Minister of some modernist religion that used to post on here who was a member of the IWW, WobbelyPreacher.
Devrim
Jun 14 2008 23:16
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I thought someone would bring him up. Decent chap. He's a unitarian. Know what you get when you cross a jehovas witness with a unitarian? someone who goes door to door but isn't sure why............
Actually there's a few clergy in the iww, mostly as what I guess could be called solidarity members. I even know of at least one christian congregation that sings songs from the iww songbook in their worship service.
Jun 15 2008 12:15
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Devrim wrote:
Imams have unions in Turkey. They are state employees. There is an article that someone posted about a threatened strike here:
http://libcom.org/forums/libcommunity/why-isnt-eks-supporting-important-workers-struggle-turkey-17082007
Devrim
I thought Turkey was Secular.
Jun 15 2008 18:41
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red and black riot wrote:
I thought Turkey was Secular.
Turkey is Laik (secular). It is just how you define the word.
It doesn't mean a separation between Mosque and state.
It means a complete domination of state over Mosque.
Devrim
Jun 15 2008 21:50
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Don't a fair number of european countries still have ministers of religion? UK, Denmark, etc?
Jun 15 2008 21:56
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Wasn't one of the IWW founders a Unitarian preacher? Plus Dorothy Day and Ammon Hennacy were long time members. They may not have been church officials, but they were very religious.
Jun 15 2008 22:02
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My mistake Tom Hagerty was a Roman Catholic minister. In all fairness though, he was dismissed by his archbishop for radical activism, but he always considered himself a good catholic.
Jun 15 2008 22:59
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OliverTwister - iirc, we still have bishops sitting in the house of lords.
Imams have unions in Turkey. They are state employees. There is an article that someone posted about a threatened strike here:
http://libcom.org/forums/libcommunity/why-isnt-eks-supporting-important-workers-struggle-turkey-17082007
Devrim