Anti-Trump demonstrations in the US - write a report if you're attending

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S. Artesian
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Apr 30 2017 15:27

How exactly can there be such a thing as "restorative justice," when there is no change whatsoever to the underlying mechanisms of oppression, exploitation, racism, etc? Those mechanisms are institutional, social, and personal actions are the expression of those institutions.

The notion of reconciliation between oppressor and oppressed, exploiter and exploited, without overthrowing the basis for oppression, exploitation, racism is but another method for facilitating, and enabling, further oppression, exploitation.

A careful reader will not that none of the "ultra-radical" "anarchists" or whatever advocating this nonsense of reconciliation are willing to engage with the actual history of these attempts at "truth or reconciliation."

We're not dealing with "community values," or even a case where some outliers disregard, place themselves outside "community values." In the 50s and 60s in the South, white citizens' councils were the community values.

Positing the very notion of community values propose a false unity, a false community; as if somehow there were autonomous zones where "communities" existed separate and apart from the dominant mode of production, the dominant class relations.

There are those who think that somehow selling labor power for wages constitutes "participating in market relations" and thus compromises the ability to oppose capitalism, while at the same time they swallow this worm of truth and reconciliation, only shows how self-deluding the human being can be.

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May 1 2017 00:44

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/29/neo-nazi-rally-pikeville-kentucky-anti-fascist

"In an email, one of the anonymous organizers of the “anti-fascist” protest wrote: “We have made sure to clearly communicate with folks from outside the region that this is not Berkley or a major city and tactics that are used there are not appropriate in eastern KY.”

The organizer wrote that the “antifas” were aware that clashing with neo-Nazis gave such groups more media attention. A town official said more than a dozen media outlets had come to Pikeville in advance of the protest.

“There is no denying they relish the attention,” the organizer wrote. “We also have to weigh the risks of not confronting them. We believe that, in the longer term, allowing neo-Nazis to organize openly and treating them like any other group gives them more legitimacy.

“History teaches us that ignoring Nazis will not make them go away and creates the risk they will begin to build real power.”

The standoff has attracted other heavily armed groups, including members of a militia group called the “III percenters”, classified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as anti-government extremists."

in the event ...

"Despite fears of violence, white nationalists and opponents exchanged only words at a rally in downtown Pikeville on Saturday as a heavy police presence and metal barricades kept the two sides separated.

At the height of the rally, there were about 125 white nationalists on one side of Main Street in an enclosure beside the historic Pike County courthouse and about 200 opponents on the opposite side of the street behind barriers set up along the sidewalk."

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article147594424.html#storylink=cpy

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May 1 2017 10:25

Off-topic insults deleted. Play the ball not the poster, please.

S. Artesian
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May 1 2017 12:49

Oh, thank you Ed, without your mature, wise, intervention, who knows what might happen?

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May 1 2017 13:38

Meh, S, them's the rules. A few weeks ago you posted on another thread about wanting to close your account coz of all the abuse.. wasn't even you I particularly had in mind in this instance, either.. no pleasing some people.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯