France should sack the old, not the young

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Why can't it be easier to sack miserable, innefficient, paper obsessed, racist, old school French state employees who are utterly shit at their "jobs for life", to make room for often brilliant and highly qualified under 26 year olds who might actually get get this country moving again?

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because after all what we really want is the country moving again.

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The question is not one of employment, but income security.

Give everyone their share of the wealth, and let them find what work they want.

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doesn't 'share of the wealth' imply the continuation of exchange-value?

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Older workers have experience, and most have demostrated their ability. They present fewer risks.

Also, look at it this way - if the government had tried to make the law apply to people of all ages, it wouldn't have had a hope in hell of being passed.

I can understand the position of many french businessmen. Their businesses are uncompetitive, but they can't reduce their costs by downsizing because they can't shed workers. The government is then prevented from making changes to help them because everyone demands job security.

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yeah it's all the fault of those uppity workers demanding job security. Someone should give them a good seeing to.

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doesn't 'share of the wealth' imply the continuation of exchange-value?

Ho ho. I should coco.

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you're strange love from paris.

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Obviously the CPE is a crap idea, but is it really that much better than young people being stuck doing a "stage" which is pure exploitation, or a badly paid CDD which is or is not renewed every 3-6 months and causes stupid amounts of panic in the run up to its expiry date? How about scrapping them all and just having one type of permanent contract, regardless of age or experience, where you get paid according to your post, not your contract, and get three months notice if you do something that merits you being fired? (Without all the restrictions of the CDI which means it's difficult to fire you even if you are incompetent, corrupt, racist, abusive, etc.)

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How about scrapping them all and just having one type of permanent contract, regardless of age or experience, where you get paid according to your post, not your contract, and get three months notice if you do something that merits you being fired? (Without all the restrictions of the CDI which means it's difficult to fire you even if you are incompetent, corrupt, racist, abusive, etc.)

How about we sack the managerial class and elect delegates to coordinate our enterprises.

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LR

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well the sacking of the parliamant should be enought,since they all are 50+

of course theire 70 % loan increase,as nothing to do with it,let alone 5000 years bullshit,no, a young one will get old like ,you will be obsolete,in a few year.....

That is precarity,depending your slave contract

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Hermit in Paris wrote:
doesn't 'share of the wealth' imply the continuation of exchange-value?

I thought everyone around here supported continuation of exchange value.

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confused

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Whilst I'm happy to imply its continuation, I stop short of supporting it. "Exchange value" are but two words in Capital, hardly a worthy adversary for the awesome might of the autonomous working class creating a new world of abundance and authentic leisure.

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Push wrote:
miserable, innefficient, paper obsessed, racist, old school French state employees who are utterly shit at their "jobs for life"

What a load of bullshit roll eyes

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Lazy Riser wrote:
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Whilst I'm happy to imply its continuation, I stop short of supporting it. "Exchange value" are but two words in Capital, hardly a worthy adversary for the awesome might of the autonomous working class creating a new world of abundance and authentic leisure.

Love

LR

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Look around you. The world would appear to be doing an admirable job of proving you wrong.

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It’s not the ethereal dialectic between labour’s cost and its output's exchange value that interrupts my autonomy, but middle class people refusing to relinquish the resources required to fund my adventures.

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right so now it's not the mode of production but middle class people that hold us back from a world of infinite play?