Hamburg Riots - Prelude to G8 Trouble (Plus Pics)

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Hamburg Riots - Prelude to G8 Trouble (Plus Pics)

Hamburg - Thousands of protesters marched through the German port city of Hamburg Monday in a dry run for demonstrations against next month's G8 summit on the Baltic coast, with some of the crowd clashing with riot police afterwards.

The protest groups, ranging from leftists to church activists, complained at the huge force of riot police flanking the march on both sides. Organizers had called off the protest halfway through, saying the police had obstructed them.

"This mobile cordon is a disgrace," said an organizer, Andreas Blechschmidt. "It's certainly not reducing tension."

Police had blocked streets near Hamburg's ornate town hall, and told the crowd of 4,000 to turn back.

A court had earlier confirmed a ban on the marchers coming within 500 metres of a city hotel, the venue for the two-day Asia-Europe meeting (ASEM) of foreign ministers beginning Monday evening.

Most protesters left, but radicals fought with riot police, who used jets of water fired from riot-control trucks to disperse them. Police said they made several arrests.

About 1,000 in the crowd were black-clad leftist radicals from several European nations, police said. The radicals wore balaclavas and protective clothing to keep themselves anonymous in clashes.

The radicals had said on a website that they aimed to "disrupt" the meeting organized by the "totalitarian, capitalist" European Union, which they charged was aiming to "exploit" Asian nations.

Ralf Meyer, a police spokesman, denied the police were too restrictive. He said police had to respond to the threat to disrupt the meeting, and the police presence was not directed against the peaceful demonstrators.

The protest movement, which also included labour groups critical of globalization, said earlier the Hamburg demonstration would be a curtain-raiser to protests at the June 6-8 summit of the Group of Eight in the German resort of Heiligendamm.

Many in the crowd wore colourful, carnival-like costumes and were protesting at a German police investigation of petrol-bombings in Hamburg and Berlin in recent months. They said the inquiry had treated the whole protest movement as if they were terrorists.

On Sunday evening, police had broken up an unregistered demonstration by 100 radicals in the city and briefly detained 53 after they tried to erect a barricade across a street.

Germany currently holds the presidency of both the European Union and the G8. The ASEM meeting is the biggest gathering in Germany linked to Berlin's EU presidency.


English Report and More Pics:

http://de.indymedia.org/2007/05/179084.shtml

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May 29 2007 15:26

One more:

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May 29 2007 15:41
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Is that a "we need a bigger boat" moment or what?

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BB wrote:
Is that a "we need a bigger boat" moment or what?

No, this is a German police tactics we call "der Wanderkessel". Must be somewhat like "the encircle on the move" in English. The cops like it because it seperates the protestors from the crowd, it makes people fear joining the march, the cobs can constantly push the people on the inner side in order to provoke clashes if they need them. and they are in control of the march at every moment. But of course you are right, this is really is one of the most beautiful "Wanderkessel" I ever saw. Next one this Saturday at Rostock...

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May 31 2007 07:33

"der Wanderkessel" - interesting, we call the static ones 'kettles,' so wanderkessel makes sense in that distinctively german concatenating way tongue

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BB wrote:
Is that a "we need a bigger boat" moment or what?

No, this is a German police tactics we call "der Wanderkessel". Must be somewhat like "the encircle on the move" in English. The cops like it because it seperates the protestors from the crowd, it makes people fear joining the march, the cobs can constantly push the people on the inner side in order to provoke clashes if they need them. and they are in control of the march at every moment. But of course you are right, this is really is one of the most beautiful "Wanderkessel" I ever saw. Next one this Saturday at Rostock...

Hi Robot. Cheers for the heads up, however it was a sarccy comment (think the movie "Jaws"), maybe a review of the tactics as you kinda know whats going to happen next.

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"der Wanderkessel" - interesting, we call the static ones 'kettles,' so wanderkessel makes sense in that distinctively german concatenating way tongue

The first time i heard it used was after the anti-nuke demos in Gorleben, Germany. I thought the word came about during the autonomous demos in germany during the eighties. Maybe english speaking folks equated kessel with kettle?

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May 31 2007 09:37

kessel means kettle, i think

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Maybe english speaking folks equated kessel with kettle?

In fact "kettle" means "Kessel", So we are talking about a "walking kettle", a "hiking kettle" or -even closer to the German word- a "wandering kettle". The German police started with the tactics in the late 80th.

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Some videos:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vp8wRd2LGIg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jpJVki82ahY&mode=related&search=

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I just been watching the utube videos and I couldn't help noticing that the German police could've kick the shit out of the protesters and the protesters wouldn't been able to do anything about it just like the Russian G8 protest and Belorussia pro-demo protest. I wonder nowdays Would've western media give a shit if the German police did? They would certainly be prised by some sections.

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i just watched a CNN broadcast on the protesters it said something like, "The G8 summit hasn't even arrived yet but already protesters are turning violent! attacking a hotel with americans in it and threatening the police. the police are on double duty to deal with the violence. the protesters want G8 countries to help with aids and climate change." so, big brother, the answer is a big fat hellz no.

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Jun 2 2007 21:47

Kicked off today - big time.

Pics and videos to follow.

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Jun 2 2007 22:01

lets all rock up in some town we've never been before and kick up shit

elitist vanguardist cunts

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lets all rock up in some town we've never been before and kick up shit

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MarketWatch wrote:
G8 protests turn to clashes in Germany; police hurt
By MarketWatch
Last Update: 2:48 PM ET Jun 2, 2007

LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- Demonstrators threw rocks and beer bottles at authorities during a protest Saturday in Germany that targeted the upcoming G8 summit, according to news accounts.
Associated Press reported that 146 police were hurt - 18 of them seriously - in the clashes with protestors, who were driven back with water cannons and tear gas. The protests took place in the German town of Rostock.
The web site EUX.TV reported that protestors hurled fireworks at police and set vehicles on fire during the clash. It was unclear how many arrests had been made as a result.
Police said about 30,000 people turned out to protest the meeting, while demonstrators said it was closer to 80,000

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http://www.reuters.com/news/video/videoStory?videoId=55325

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ROSTOCK, Germany (AP) -- Masked demonstrators showered police with grapefruit-sized rocks and beer bottles, then were driven back with water cannon and tear gas during a protest march Saturday against the upcoming Group of Eight summit in Germany.

The clashes left smoke from burning cars and the sting of tear gas drifting through the harborfront area in the north German port of Rostock. Some 146 police were hurt, 25 of them seriously.

Radicals "are smashing everything in their way to pieces," said Karsten Wolff, a police spokesman.

The officially permitted march preceded a three-day summit beginning Wednesday in the seaside resort of Heiligendamm, where German Chancellor Angela Merkel hosts the leaders of the other G8 nations -- Britain, France, Japan, Italy, Russia, Canada and the United States.

The leaders are expected to discuss measures against global warming, the fight against AIDS and poverty in Africa, and the world economy. As in previous years, the summit drew protesters of various stripes opposed to globalization, capitalism and the G8 itself.

Most marchers were peaceful, but others pried up paving stones and broke them into chunks before charging police. Officers in helmets and full body armor fell back, then charged the demonstrators.

Five large green police trucks with twin water cannons mounted on top blasted groups of rioters. A police car was destroyed and several parked cars burned, spreading black smoke over the area.

Protesters torched a large blue recycling bin.

Police spokesman Frank Scheulen estimated the number of violence-minded demonstrators at about 2,000. Police put the size of the demonstration at 25,000, while organizers said it was 80,000.

Officials said 52 people were arrested; two have been released.

Werner Raetz, an anti-globalization activist with Attac, one of the organizing groups, distanced himself from the violence: "There is no justification for these attacks."

As for the further demonstrations that are planned for next week, Raetz said both sides should try to get the "emotional situation" under control.

Police have built a seven-mile fence around the summit site at Heiligendamm and banned protests in the immediate area. There are several camps in the area for protesters and marches are planned.

Peter Mueller, who was among the demonstrators, had tears streaming from bloodshot eyes after the tear gas was released. "As long as the police were in the background it was OK, but as soon as one took a step closer, it went out of control," he said.

He shrugged. "What can you do? So ends the peaceful protest."

At one point, a line of police marched through a harborside street to scatter demonstrators, and were pelted with stones from behind. One of the organizers pleaded for calm from a loudspeaker.

"The police are heading back so we can hold our protest in peace, that is what we want," he said.

The march began without violence, and most of the demonstrators remained peaceful, gathering to listen to speeches from a stage in a large square near the waterfront.

But some taunted members of the 13,000-strong police detachment from around Germany, and several hundred wore bandanas across their faces with sweat shirt hoods pulled down low to obscure their identities.

The protesters from around Europe and the world gathered at two locations early in the day for rallies, then marched in two groups along three-mile routes to converge on the harbor for the main demonstration.

Police lined the path through the city, and helicopters flew overhead. Most shops and cafes were shuttered.

The protest was organized by several dozen groups under the motto "another world is possible."

"The world shaped by the dominance of the G8 is a world of war, hunger, social divisions, environmental destruction and barriers against migrants and refugees," organizers said in leaflets handed out on the streets.

Kay Stenzel woke at 3 a.m. to drive in from the eastern city of Bautzen with four friends to voice their discontent with the G8 leaders.

"They want to impose their wills upon the poor nations," he said, waving a red flag emblazoned with a black cat -- an animal he chose because it was "unruly."

On their Web site, organizers emphasized that they wanted a peaceful protest.

"There is no reason to be afraid to come to the big demonstration in Rostock," they said. "We do not expect major problems with the police."

laugh out loud

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this from the MATB representative

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Most of the people fighting the police were really young kids, dressed in black but no hard core poltical agenda.
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Oisleep - go back to sleep.

At the demo yesterday in Rostock there was a huge militant black bloc of several thousand : Anarchists, autonomen - anti-fascist and anti-capitalist. Any city or state which hosts a G8 conference will be targeted by our resistance - and despite your liberal whinging so many of the inhabitants of Rostock cheered on the Black Bloc and clapped to see them attack the police and the capitalist system!

It is total bullshit that you quote "most of the people fighting the police were young kids, dressed in black with no hardcore political agenda" - and even if youth like that wanted to fight back - I support them! I am glad that the youth have not been sucked into the pathetically crap ideology you repeat. The MATB "representive" must have been blind (drunk) or they are simply an old fart moaning on the sidelines. I was there with many comrades and we are commited to the anti-capitalist struggle! Brits, Germans, Greeks, Italians, Spanish, Americans, Canadians, Dutch, Belgians, Japanese, Koreans ; Everyone !

German mainstream media said over 150 cops hurt, approx 25 seriously injured and only around 50 people arrested at the demo for rioting as far as I know, with few injuries on our side. Scores of corporate stores and businesses damaged, police and media vehicles trashed, journalists attacked - It was a positively amazing day! We had a massive visible presence on the streets, at the head of the demo and we defended the after-party/concert from police attacks and the "Kessle". We met many new comrades and forged new links for the ongoing assault against the capitalist system in our everyday lives! So you keep on wondering and whinging behind your computer Oisleep, and we will get on with our organising and agitating, not just at these international meetings, but everyday and everywhere!

Would love to write more, but there is a lot of work to be done now and people are getting ready to wake up and stir.. check out Germany IMC - the UK IMC coverage is poor.

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the workers vanguard

too important to worry about dog shit, anti-social crime, drug misery and day to day practical solutions to real on the ground problems, but will rock up in your town any time soon to throw a few stones and piss off the locals and then boast about it on the internet

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I didn't give you permission to post that picture oisleep. angry

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Some Pics:

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Some Videos:

CNN: http://youtube.com/watch?v=A4Us04nuVCk
CNN: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5DPsO5QLib0
BBC: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0vUh4-uNpBM
BBC: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xQEzJ9-3830
BBC: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NY5Gvr9zGF4
NTV: http://youtube.com/watch?v=94pDdpQclkI
SkyNews: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mzQJXqa8mOk
Reuters: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sTFonp_g5IE
Reutershttp://youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_9wY3Uw-U
Aussagen 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1YWKp2IMjQE
Aussagen 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=K_mdy-0slaQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QOIp0QO12ac
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0XdFjfnkCD4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fo8UJOfisbg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yDqThVpu1AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PVvUdTNA8Io
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kYwo3s725FU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W3mC-uPyvxs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=W-BvXjWp8cw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lwpf7U07oTs

Best Video So Far ! - http://youtube.com/watch?v=CFJmSunh5Z4

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Saw some of the posters for this mobilisation in basque bars during the week, most were put out under the antifa banner, what does the g8 have to do with antifa?

Probably the most organised radical left group and the most recognisable 'brand' in germany. they can pull off huge counter demos as well as the more small scale street work i suppose. whether it's a good thing or not is another question..

oh wait i'm wrong, it's about the ne0-fascist totalitarian world order man!

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Well I suppose it is going to be a bit exciting if you're actually in the riot.
Might not be achieving anything, but its got to at least get a bit of adrenalin going I'd have thought.
Not as much as worrying about "dog shit, anti-social crime, drug misery and day to day practical solutions to real on the ground problems" obviously. That Oisleep's pretty inspirational I've got to say.

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Jun 3 2007 12:44


Oh for fucks sake roll eyes

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culture ~ arts ~ theatre

"Never has struggle seemed so realistic"

Tarquin Loxely on the new production of 'G8' which
is taking Germany by Storm.

It was my pleasure this week to take in a performance
that you're going to be hearing a lot more about over
the next few weeks; the new production of the classic
summer theatre performance G8.

Many of the features that made the original a hit are
still there of course - the international cast, the classic
plot of a small band of activists pitted against the might
of capitalist empire, the plight of third world farmers
spoken through a balaclava'd european accent.

But this new recreation takes the whole spectacle to
new levels of visual intensity. Amidst the burning
barricades, stormtrooper-esque riot police and
impassioned calls to arms it's easy to forget that this
is all a performance.

Indeed, one memorable scene of a confrontation calls
to mind the scenes from Cochabamba's 'water wars;'
the performances are so compelling you could almost
believe an insurgent proletariat was rising in Germany,
such is the commitment of the international cast.

G8 takes outdoor avant-garde theatre to new levels
of spectacular effects and Manichean plot lines, if you
catch one show before you go back to work as normal
next week, make it this one.

__________________________________________
G8 opened yesterday in Rostock and will be showing
across the region over the next week, with a matinee in
Heilegendamm on Thursday.

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Political extremism is authoritarian, ochlarchist (ochlarchy = mob rule), the opposite of anarchist, according to the Oslo Convention, see http://www.anarchy.no/oslo.html. Persons doing political extremism are ochlarchists, the opposite of anarchists, and are thus expelled from the anarchist movement, regardless of what they may claim to be. Such ochlarchist infiltrators to the anarchist movement, get an expelling Brown Card from the International Anarchist Tribunal, for breaking the Oslo Convention. So called "autonomous" groups are marxist, authoritarian socialist, not anarchist, on the economical-political map. And thus so called "autonomous" groups don't represent autonomous socialism, i.e. anarchism, although they may use some anarchist and autonomous phrases.

A brown card ! they're fucked now.

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culture ~ arts ~ theatre

"Never has struggle seemed so realistic"

Tarquin Loxely on the new production of 'G8' which
is taking Germany by Storm.

It was my pleasure this week to take in a performance
that you're going to be hearing a lot more about over
the next few weeks; the new production of the classic
summer theatre performance G8.

Many of the features that made the original a hit are
still there of course - the international cast, the classic
plot of a small band of activists pitted against the might
of capitalist empire, the plight of third world farmers
spoken through a balaclava'd european accent.

But this new recreation takes the whole spectacle to
new levels of visual intensity. Amidst the burning
barricades, stormtrooper-esque riot police and
impassioned calls to arms it's easy to forget that this
is all a performance.

Indeed, one memorable scene of a confrontation calls
to mind the scenes from Cochabamba's 'water wars;'
the performances are so compelling you could almost
believe an insurgent proletariat was rising in Germany,
such is the commitment of the international cast.

G8 takes outdoor avant-garde theatre to new levels
of spectacular effects and Manichean plot lines, if you
catch one show before you go back to work as normal
next week, make it this one.

__________________________________________
G8 opened yesterday in Rostock and will be showing
across the region over the next week, with a matinee in
Heilegendamm on Thursday.

Did you write that? grin

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Oh for fuck sake, so what their doing might not actually give the basis for a substantial social movment capable of overthrowing capital. (i.e. it might be kind of useless for the anarchist project) But that doesn't mean we have to denounce them. For fuck sake we're anarchists not the fucking SWP, what the problem are they going to damage the good name of 'the movment' and those people who have 'serious demands'. Christ, I fucking hate the left sometimes. Oh and on dog shit, if i just wanted to get dog shit cleaned up I'd join fianna fail and get change brought through that way, I want to abolish wage labour and the state thats why i'm an anarchist not cos of dogshit. FFS.