Spy planes against the anti-social! (wtf?)

Joseph K. "the thinking man's idiot"
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Submitted by Joseph K. on 15 October, 2006 - 14:21.

cops are touting the idea of using spy drones to monitor 'anti-social behavior' (like socialising in non-privatised public space, which doesn't make anyone richer). link

The BBC wrote:
Senior officers have described the new initiative as an "Al Capone" approach to so-called yob behaviour.

Wikipedia wrote:
Al Capone orchestrated the most notorious gangland killing of the century ... By staging the massacre, Capone was trying to dispose of his arch-rival

nice model, coppers eek

despite his liberal muppetry, George Monbiot wrote a fairly good article on the logic of surveillance technologies here.

i don't like the state sad

Tacks "in it to win it"
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15 October, 2006 - 17:11

jesuuuuuuuuus

its like a john carpenter film.

Joseph K. "the thinking man's idiot"
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15 October, 2006 - 17:22

i've just wikipedia'd john carpenter and i'm still not sure what that means :? embarrassed

it's bad in a sort of sci-fi/horror way right? tongue

Tacks "in it to win it"
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15 October, 2006 - 17:28

the image of some 'hood rat' being trailed by a fucking unmanned drone is totally carpenter.

and i don't really think carpenter is horror, just incredibly good action movies.

It is carpenteresque in the distopian, open war between the state and young aimless crims, and the high tech aspects.

OK?!! wink

Joseph K. "the thinking man's idiot"
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15 October, 2006 - 17:33

cool, like a cultured 'orwellian' then? tongue

Tacks "in it to win it"
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15 October, 2006 - 18:51

i'm like, totally pop maaan. Who's orwell grandad?

Nemo "Desperately in need of a new tagline"
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15 October, 2006 - 18:59

Do they fire air-to-ground hoodie-seeking ASBOs?

Joseph K. "the thinking man's idiot"
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15 October, 2006 - 19:00

dunno, i was just trying to sound 'street', a heavily surveilled street of course wink

Tacks "in it to win it"
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15 October, 2006 - 19:11
Nemo wrote:
Do they fire air-to-ground hoodie-seeking ASBOs?

no the drones march you to a cash point for an on-teh-spot fine.

Feighnt "the definition of "nobody important""
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16 October, 2006 - 04:22

i kinda think carpenter is for action movies what romero is for horror. both of them seem to be folk who like to do really cool things which, nonetheless, are produced in a pretty cool, laid back manner, and for not a huge amount of money (for hollywood). er, i think... not so sure how romero is for the last one, but i thought he wasnt bad with that...

kinda anti-blockbuster directors, who succeed anyway grin

Peter "Australian: therefore a liar and a cunt"
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16 October, 2006 - 05:40

Check out Mike Davis' great book "City of Quartz", there's a section on the LAPD airforce of 50 pilots IIRC. Probably more now 16 years after the book was published..

In LA heaps of buildings have numbers painted on the roof so for the cop choppers.

MalFunction "Hardware fault"
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16 October, 2006 - 09:45

as of June this year the FAA grounded the LAPD's attempt to test drones - aviation safety reasons.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/22/l-a-drone-grounded-disciplinary-action-possible/

IIRC the british government is/was thinking of changing the law in UK to allow these civilian drones?

(military can, of course, fly drones already, but they are subject to the same laws on low-flying as manned aircraft, and not usually allowed over populated areas.)

cortez
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19 October, 2006 - 18:08

This reminds me a bit of "1984"
We all love Big Brother!
Big Brother is watching you!

Lazy Riser "Orvillite Allegory"
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19 October, 2006 - 18:14

Hi

"They Live" is one of my fav. films. The enemy is middle class after all.

Love

LR

caitlin69
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26 October, 2006 - 11:18

"the enemy is middle-class" smacks of stereotyping.perhaps you meant the NME is middle-class. will the middle-classes stand up to be shot please?!?!

madashell "KSW, LOL"
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26 October, 2006 - 20:29

Ultimately, it's not that different to having mobile CCTV vans, I suppose, not really a difference of kind, just of degree. Though it does smack of really bad post-apocolyptic fiction.

caitlin69 wrote:
the NME is middle-class

cool grin

jef costello "Beautiful, just like Nuremburg"
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28 October, 2006 - 19:17
Lazy Riser wrote:
"They Live" is one of my fav. films.

Me too, it's also the inspiration for Duke Nukem.
I love John Carpenter's films, although he's in a bit of a bad patch at the moment.