The End of the World?

Submitted by Demogorgon303 on 8 September, 2008 - 18:14.

It could all be over on Wednesday. Apparently, a huge particle accelerator is being turned on by CERN in order to simulate the beginning of the universe. Let's just hope they don't damage this one in the process!

8 September, 2008 - 18:43

I'm trying to get a subforum put on AF area of libcom called /miniblackhole but mods are ignoring me for some reason. I don't think they quite got it. Oh well, it'll all be over soon. I'll be holding my Millennium Bug mug tightly as I reach the event horizon and we put all our differences aside and become one.

8 September, 2008 - 19:43

If it does destroy the universe then I hope that god survives.

8 September, 2008 - 21:08

I just find it hilarious that the date on Wednesday is 10/9/8.

Countdown anyone?

8 September, 2008 - 21:42

And it's a day before 9/11 OMG!! It's an Islamist plot!

8 September, 2008 - 21:48

It's been nice knowing some of you...

9 September, 2008 - 01:15

I'm not really that worried. Way I see it, this world may well end, but a new one will surely be born, one were we all have new, silly looking facial hair, and an attitude more evil than the one before!

9 September, 2008 - 04:28

The Vogons have tricked us into putting in their bypass for them.

9 September, 2008 - 05:34

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry, he's from the internet!

9 September, 2008 - 10:46
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They could also find the first evidence of extra spatial dimensions, and even create mini-black holes that blink in and out of existence in a fraction of a second.

That does seem dangerous.

I recall that many scientists were unsure whether the reactions caused by exploding an atom bomb would stop or would continue forever. I wonder when they'll get unlucky?

9 September, 2008 - 11:31

Just to make you all feel safer, there's actually a series of court cases being launched by scientists trying to stop it being turned on!

Disclaimer: I don't really think it's going to be the end of the world tomorrow. I've just bought some fresh milk.

9 September, 2008 - 11:32

dammit i'm seeing a girl on friday, so either the world's ended or i've lost probably my only ever chance to get laid via physics sad

9 September, 2008 - 11:35

This is old news, it certainly won't be the end of the world only a minority of respected scientists believe that. The machine won't be in full swing until mid-next summer, meanwhile some people worry about jokes on libcommunity. Puts it all in perspective tongue

9 September, 2008 - 11:40

I actually think the "jokes" on libcommunity are a serious issue. And the hadron collisions start in October, not next Summer, so Joseph K may be in with a chance after all.

9 September, 2008 - 11:45

They start in october but stop in winter to save electricity then really get going next summer.

9 September, 2008 - 12:04
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They start in october but stop in winter to save electricity then really get going next summer.

No mention of that on the LHC site on CERN that I could find ...

And it seems bizarre that they'd shut it down in winter to save electricity, when one of the major problems is keeping the ring cool (close to absolute zero).

9 September, 2008 - 12:06

I heard it from the bbc

9 September, 2008 - 12:17

Maybe electricity is more expensive in the winter? I doubt you get significant cooling benefit in the winter, especially with the thing being underground. Or the bbc could be wrong

9 September, 2008 - 12:23
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Maybe electricity is more expensive in the winter?

I find this difficult to believe, but I have no idea how the continental electricity system works. But, considering it takes a lot of time and energy to get the thing cool enough to use, they'd certainly be keeping the cryo-units running continuously or otherwise they'd have to go through it all again. Of course, scientists need holidays too, so I imagine they stop smashing particles round Xmas time. But saving electricity seems rather implausible to me ... but hey, I could be wrong.

9 September, 2008 - 12:33

And it seems, I am. From the NY Times:

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CERN shuts down for the winter to save money on its electric bill. While it sleeps, engineers will “train” the superconducting magnets that steer the energetic particles around their track to handle the high currents needed to produce fields strong enough to bend the paths of 7-trillion-electron-volt protons. When the collider awakens again in the spring it will be at full strength, and physicists will be face to face with their dreams.

Looks like physicists are feeling the pinch from the credit crisis too!

9 September, 2008 - 14:55

Remember this day demo, you wuz wrong. wink

9 September, 2008 - 17:10
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Remember this day demo, you wuz wrong. wink

If he's going to be proved wrong it will be tomorrow, not today.

10 September, 2008 - 19:27

11 September, 2008 - 00:14

One of their scientists on the project gave an amusing quote to the Metro which was running a story: "anyone who says this will cause the end of the world is twat"

11 September, 2008 - 01:20

I don't understand this thing at all. What's the point of it?

11 September, 2008 - 06:32

you know when kids smash stuff open, like some birds eggs they found, to see what's inside? it's like that, but with grown ups and protons.

11 September, 2008 - 09:45
11 September, 2008 - 09:50

BBC website have your say on this issue ics left me even more empty than usual. sad

11 September, 2008 - 09:57

You just don't get this kind of objective journalism anymore.

11 September, 2008 - 12:02

Isn't it really funny how the scientist in this picture is standing on a machine which could quite possibly tear a hole in the universe and destroy it.. so they thought they best wear hardhats?

11 September, 2008 - 12:15

health and safety still applies to universe-destroying machines. stop trying to roll back the gains of workers struggle!

(i'm moving this to libcommunity since irreverence seems to outweigh the collective knowledge of particle physics on this board - if anyone wants a serious thread about the LHC please start one!)