A question for ye!
May 18 2008
Hey i'm from australia, and i'd like to know if anyone can tell me how the sheilds in this picture are made?(or similar sheilds)
Much love!!
x
May 19 2008
#2
Um, cut up oil drums by the looks of them
May 19 2008
#3
nah. oil drums are too heavy for what they're using them for. I'm about 99% sure those are halfs of orange construction barrels that have been spray painted. Kind of flimsy, but also light. Heavy duty ones of those would likely be rain barrels, which I'm almost positive those are not.
May 19 2008
#4
Sorry, I was actually thinking of plastic cooking oil drums. Like the ones lying out the back of the chippy down the road from me.
May 20 2008
#5
Hey that's really good thanks alot 
Has anyone ever used a sheild at an action before? Or ever made some that are a little different to the ones in the zine?
I loved a picture i saw from Genoa 2001, where they had an entire intersection blocked off and the sit down in it was surrounded right the way around by enormous plexiglass sheilds. It looked pretty intense and awesome.
xx
May 20 2008
#6
I don't really think this is the right site to be asking, I'm afraid.
May 20 2008
#7
Gabs wrote:
Hey that's really good thanks alotHas anyone ever used a sheild at an action before? Or ever made some that are a little different to the ones in the zine?
I loved a picture i saw from Genoa 2001, where they had an entire intersection blocked off and the sit down in it was surrounded right the way around by enormous plexiglass sheilds. It looked pretty intense and awesome.xx
Did you also love when the caribinieri easily knocked down the shields, beat the shit out of everyone, smashed the tutti bianches van and kicked off a series of back and forth battles on that street that ultimately led to Carlo Giuliani being shot in the head?
Dont have any illusions that a shield will somehow protect you from the cops, its a dangerous illusion some people sew. In any decent riot situation its the last thing you want anyway, they are cumbersome.
May 20 2008
#8
guydebordisdead wrote:
Gabs wrote:
Hey that's really good thanks alotHas anyone ever used a sheild at an action before? Or ever made some that are a little different to the ones in the zine?
I loved a picture i saw from Genoa 2001, where they had an entire intersection blocked off and the sit down in it was surrounded right the way around by enormous plexiglass sheilds. It looked pretty intense and awesome.xx
Did you also love when the caribinieri easily knocked down the shields, beat the shit out of everyone, smashed the tutti bianches van and kicked off a series of back and forth battles on that street that ultimately led to Carlo Giuliani being shot in the head?
Dont have any illusions that a shield will somehow protect you from the cops, its a dangerous illusion some people sew. In any decent riot situation its the last thing you want anyway, they are cumbersome.
to be fair they did manage to overrun the peelers and set fire to a caribinieri van.
May 20 2008
#9
revol68 wrote:
to be fair they did manage to overrun the peelers and set fire to a caribinieri van.
Ah, yeh. I get a hard-on every time I watch it. If you are gonna fight the cops, fight them with cobblestones and not plexiglass.
May 22 2008
#10
I've used them before. I wouldn't necessarily take any one persons advice about what works or doesn't too seriously, though it's worth asking. Most people just propose what they've seen or heard works. Any street confrontation is going to be real situational and involve a lot of factors, and I hope you thin hard about what you hope to gain from using them. For certain goals I'd say they are a great way hold space. You're best bet is building and experimenting with those you're working with.
a bit outdated, and I have mixed feelings on some of the advice, but your best starting guide for shields is the "bodyhammer guide":
http://www.recreate68.org/shieldbook.pdf