Another Take on SDS and the SDS Convention of 2007 (Plus, A Libertarian Answer to an “Anonymous Libertarian Analysis")

Submitted by MikeGW on 30 September, 2007 - 18:22.

“To Remake a Movement”: Another Take on SDS and the SDS Convention of 2007

By Mike GW of the Antithesis Collective-NYC NEFAC and NYC Students for a Democratic Society

This was originally a brief report sent out after the SDS Convention to friends and comrades who could not make it to Detroit. Two months after the convention, it has been rewritten and expanded in response to a recent document that could not go unanswered. Read on to learn more about the
organization, the convention, and the raging debates that followed.

About 200 students and observers converged on Detroit’s Wayne State University from July 27 to 30, 2007, with the ambitious goal of rebuilding SDS as a national force to be reckoned with. There was an organization, a structure to build. There was a vision, a politics to work out. There were internal problems to confront, there were actions to endorse, and all in all, there were some 70 proposals to be debated and submitted to the membership for ratification.

Over the course of three days, from 10 in the morning until 10 at night (or later), the members of the new SDS took on and, for the most part, met
this daunting task. To this end, they tried out a monster of a procedure mixing up consensus and voting. It was a painful process, but it was an all-too-rare experiment in direct democracy, and it was just the beginning of what will have to be a much longer, even harder process.

As another observer wrote back in August, “The convention was largely focused on forging the connections and trust necessary to struggle
together, as well as building an organization that embodies the new society – a society in which everyone participates in making the decisions and structures that affect them” (Matt Wasserman in The Indypendent).

But where was everyone else who’s supposed to participate in this new society? SDS as a whole remains utterly unrepresentative of the students
of most schools and universities in the U.S., with its majority of rather affluent white students. Still, it’s doing better than its predecessor on some fronts, with what may be a majority of women and a sizable element of working-class students.

With the critical goal of taking on the rampant patriarchy and racism within SDS, the planners allotted a lot of time for caucuses and “allies”:
people of color/white allies, working class/“class privileged allies” (a.k.a., the bourgie kids), women & trans/male allies (which I helped out with), and high school/older allies. While the caucuses were valuable, the feeling of many of those involved in the “ally groups” was that they were "more symbolic than real."

We talked a good talk, but it remains to be seen whether SDS will actually start walking the walk when it comes to struggles around class, race, and gender.

That said, many of the “vision” proposals approved at the convention took these struggles seriously. The vision that came out of this discussion –
from the “Principles of Unity” to the joint “Visions for a New SDS” drafted by myself and five other authors – was of an organization committed to fighting “alongside people’s struggles and movements for liberation,” and “grounded in the work of combating systems” like capitalism, white supremacy and patriarchy.

At the same time, there were other “visions” rolled out that seemed radically disconnected from people’s struggle, visions in the clouds that wouldn’t deign to come down to the trenches, aiming instead to design a blueprint for the future. In particular, many found problematic the prominence of Michael Albert, a well-heeled thinker who doesn’t speak for SDS but was nonetheless given the closing speech and more thanks to his adoring disciples.

The pareconists and after-capitalists are only one among a number of factions that have already emerged within SDS. There are factions within
factions among the old-school reds, whom so many love to hate, but who have done little harm and some good. There are at least two wings of
anarchists and anti-authoritarians: The first are the “organizers” (myself among them). The other wing are the “anti-organizers,” and those the old SDS would call the “Action Faction.”

These divisions resulted in an epic four-way face-off over what our national structure would be, a faceoff between federationists, anti-organizers, pareconists, and “democratic centralists” that lasted into the night. The members ultimately adopted an elaborate but thoroughly democratic federation structure culled from three proposals. It remains unclear how the new structure is actually going to work, but it holds promise for SDS’ future.

Under this structure, the ultimate power to make the decisions remains with the local chapters, who have to ratify proposals with a super-majority, while working groups implement their decisions nationally, national caucuses exist to fight oppression, and a rotating, recallable “spokescouncil” is made up of a delegate from each chapter to make sure things get done. The convention also agreed to membership requirements for individuals as well as chapters.

As SDS organizer Daniel Tasripin recently argued, in defense of such an organization, “The work of actively changing conditions on the ground –
building up the capability to wage further struggle, of uniting disparate struggle together into a common battle, agitating and building up militancy where there was once apathy – these are matters where large scale organization, along with a large-scale commitment, becomes necessary” (NYC Indymedia).

The convention ended with a whirlwind series of endorsements of major actions and campaigns in the upcoming months, including the call for monthly actions as part of the Iraq Moratorium, the “No War, No Warming” mobilization in October, a handful of further actions against the war, and
crucially, resolutions in support of the “Justice Will Be Served” and “Break the Chains” campaigns, both involving immigrant workers’ struggles.

It’s telling that our “Resolution on Student Solidarity with Workers and Communities,” approved by our Working Class Caucus, was almost bumped off the agenda (as were the two labor campaigns). Still, it was ultimately endorsed by the convention. It stated that Students for a Democratic Society “will commit to practicing solidarity with workers and communities” and that it will be “consistently relevant, responsive and accountable to those most directly affected.”

And so we went home to do the work of making SDS a real live organization. Two months later, we can see some of the work has already fallen short. The proposals coming out of the convention have yet to be formally submitted to the membership. National working groups, caucuses, and the spokescouncil do not yet exist. SDS hasn’t done all it said it would do to support the campaigns and actions this fall.

But it looks like it’s on its way. Local chapters are organizing and growing, and they’re involving themselves in struggle in ways they (not to mention the old SDS) have not done before. Can SDS turn itself into the organized, democratic, relevant, responsible, accountable, inclusive, strategic and winning force that it aspires to be? The future, as always, is unwritten.

Postscript:

A Libertarian Answer to an “Anonymous Libertarian Analysis of the SDS Convention”

Original document here:
http://newsds.org/wiki/index.php?title=An_Anonymous_Libertarian_Analysis_Of_The_Detroit_Convention

What we find in this analysis hardly lives up to the name of the “libertarian left” which title it claims. If I was writing a document like this, I would have signed it “anonymous,” too—it’s that embarrassing to anyone who identifies as an anti-authoritarian.

To turn race and ethnicity into an “artificial identity group advanced over the interests of the class,” and to equate any kind of anti-racism with “liberal identity politics,” is to deny the very real and persistent presence of racial injustice and oppression in our midst. To do this is to perpetuate the historical exclusion of people of color, their struggles and their concerns from the ranks of our organizations. To do this is to condemn our organizing to utter irrelevance.

As a class struggle anarchist, I am struck by how poor is the author’s analysis of class. Kelly Lee and I recently wrote in our pamphlet: “It is impossible today to speak of class without speaking of racialized poverty and a racialized division of labor.” And as “Anonymous” would learn if s/he studied history or actually went out and organized in a workplace or community, race and class cannot be separated in our society, nor can white supremacy be wished away.

All anti-authoritarians share the author’s opposition to “centralized organization.” But it’s hard to see how this has anything to do with the author’s attack on the federative structure. We also agree that the “informal leadership” is a real problem within SDS. But that’s exactly why an actual structure is necessary. There’s nothing undemocratic about having delegates from chapters on a rotating, recallable spokescouncil, or marginalized groups having their own spaces in SDS.

Those in solidarity with immigrant workers can’t help but be astounded by the author’s slandering organizations like the Chinese Staff and Workers’
Association and campaigns like “Break the Chains” as “business union campaigns” from either a “Maoist sect” or “the historical dead-end of traditional unions.” I would love to hear what the author’s got in mind to top the work that these immigrant worker-led movements are doing for their own liberation.

The author makes a total of one valid point: Students need to start seeing themselves as young workers, not just as “students.” But they’re not going to do it by reading screeds with no understanding of the realities that young workers are facing today, realities that have a lot to do with race, with organization, and yes, with unions. Student-workers will only gain their consciousness through the process of struggle. It’s too bad “Anonymous” hasn't gained theirs yet.

1 October, 2007 - 20:24

As one of the authors of the analysis which is being criticized as a post-script to this work, I would like to respond to a few things which may be lost in translation for those on libcom but not in SDS.

Our analysis is available on the topic "SDS", where others can judge for themselves about whether we are neglecting other aspects of capitalist oppression like racism, or simply promoting a class analysis of society's problems which relegates these issues to their quite important and corresponding place. When this document speaks of the "historical exclusion" of people of color from organizations (presumably mostly white anarchist organizations in America) I will simply refer them to the history of the IWW, which organized black, latino, slav, and all other workers without discrimination regardless of whatever group they belonged to. I believe this makes the authors' claim look somewhat unfounded.

As regards the CSWA, "jobs for justice/break the chains" campaigns we were not claiming these particular drives came from or were inventions of Maoist sects, but rather these proposals originated in the Convention from Maoists, which is true. What is disputed is whether these Maoists were or were not members of a particular Maoist group, FRSO (there are, amusingly, two FRSO's, one of which was the only political group with a table at the Convention). What has happened thus far has been that these few Maoists, after unleashing a quite personal attack against our document on the SDS wiki (we were called in a few short posts "sectarian", "ass"(es), closet racists, shit-talkers, "lazy", etc.) loudly proclaimed that, yes, they were authoritarians (as they had already mentioned as much in prior writings; caught "red"-handed as it were) but no, they were not with any organization. They both attend Hunter College-CUNY, where they are in the SDS chapter. One of these authoritarians is Mr. Tasripin, one of a handful of people the author quotes in his document, perhaps in a gesture of reconciliation between Anarchists and Maoists? I again leave the factual record to the judgement of libcom readers.

Concerning the national structure of SDS, it is available here "http://newsds.org/wiki/index.php?title=SDS_Federation_Structure". Feel free to peruse a document that is apparently not meriting our criticism of it as too wordy and full of potential loopholes. Another interesting development in SDS has been the National Caucuses, which we have already stated we don't oppose as an idea: we simply oppose the current fact that right now they are unelected, with no regulations for running them, and not overseen while having enormous administrative power. This may seem a bit silly but given the history of SDS, and our current view of it, we believe that the less democracy there is in SDS the more easy it will be for authoritarians to split the organization again.

In closing, we are a bit surprised that supporters of NEFAC (us) have been criticized so harshly by a member of NEFAC, especially on issues like class analysis (where we never assumed nor said that class and race were not related) and distrust of Leninists which should be self-evident for Anarchists. Nonetheless we still maintain hope that there is more than one point of unity between us and the author, and that this will be the basis for an influential and organized libertarian presence within SDS.

2 October, 2007 - 00:38
Iron Column wrote:
In closing, we are a bit surprised that supporters of NEFAC (us) have been criticized so harshly by a member of NEFAC

Leaving the rest aside you can hardly complain of this when you published the original document anonymously?

2 October, 2007 - 00:53

I think the Iron is more taken by the tone of the critique than the fact that a critique was made...

I also was a little taken aback by the insulting tone of the end of the document, I thought it was un comradely and over played the criticisms brought up in the original anonymous text.

All in all i hope people can have a comradely debate on these issues, as the history of the SDS ( and popular movements n general) shows the need for organisation and a strong voice for anti authoritarian revolutionaries.

2 October, 2007 - 02:40

Here it is. SDS breaks-up NEFAC.

2 October, 2007 - 07:45

I think the tone of the critique doesn't even come close to the tone of the original document. The analysis offered comes off as absurd class-reductionism. Whatever the intent, the wording of the original analysis seems to deride addressing racial oppressions as "liberalism", "identity politics", and "bourgeois ideology". To say that the history of the IWW disproves historical exclusion of people of color is so absurd I don't need to take this any further.

The original document goes further, suggesting that accepting racial oppression will somehow make SDS defend scabs. Though in the end I'm not sure why the authors even care, with their immense distress at people supporting(critically) the, "historical dead-end of traditional unions". Also, regardless of who presented the proposal regarding Chinese Staff Workers, they have always in my experience been a solid, grassroots labor organization. The IWW here actually has solid relations with them, and has had a number of joint events with them over the last few years.

I think the tone is further caused by the remarkable slander leveled at some of the people who presented proposals, which as I understands it includes Mike GW(NEFAC Member) and Kelly Lee(NEFAC Supporter). This "anarcho-leadership" is equated with liberalism, social democracy, and leninism, without any real analysis to back up these attacks. If you make these sorts of attacks, especially anonymously, I think it's likely you'll get a less than comradely response.

I can't respond to the rest of this, as I'm not in SDS(though half my collective is, including Mike GW). I'm glad to hear that you support NEFAC(Are you an official supporter or more informally?). I'm sure that people in NEFAC who are involved in SDS would be totally open to dialogue provided it is of the constructive sort. I don't really think the "Anonymous Libertarian Analysis" was really offered in that spirit though.

2 October, 2007 - 08:08

rebelworker: you talk about the "uncomradely tone" of the document above. But the "anonymous critique" it responded to was anything but "comradely". here it accuses others of, essentially, advocating scabbing:

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This totality of oppressions implies the equality of all forms of oppression, and therefore, mystifies the true class composition of capitalist society. Only the working class, through its own efforts, can bring about the social revolution. This “equality of oppressions” schema is nothing more than a theoretical incitement to scabbing. For example, if a strike is in progress, and the boss wants to break it, conceivably the boss would simply bring in members of one identity group and encourage workers to leave their pickets.

Insofar as I'm familiar with those who advocate "the equality of oppressions," they would say that this implies that the movement needs to listen to, and take seriously, the concerns of the various oppressed groups, to incorporate struggle against the various forms of oppression into the movement as a whole. To engage in scabbing is to deny the reality of class oppression. That is not taking class oppression seriously or accepting the aims and struggles of the working class. In fact it would be a denial of the equality of oppressions since it would be elevating one oppression over others. Consider for example the oppression of gay people. Should their concerns be brought into the workplace context and taken seriously by the labor movement? That is the aim of, for example, a gay workers group like Pride at Work. To say that anti-racist struggle is as important as other aspects of the struggle against oppression is not to say that, for example, it's okay for black workers to act as scabs.

I'm not sure i would agree that all oppressions are the same. I think class oppression is different in that the liberation of, say, women and black and Latin folks can't happen without eliminating the class system as most are working class.

But I know why people on the radical left have been driven to say things like that. In the past there have been intractable debates about which oppression or fault line was primary. Some have held that racism is the "primary contradiction", others have argued that class is the "primary contradiction." Saying all oppressions are equal is a way of trying to overcome that dispute, as the class struggle and the anti-racist struggle are both essential.

It's not helpful to the discussion of this debate to introduce strawman arguments like the one above about scabbing.

I would say that the following comment is sectarian:

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The most upsetting part of this process was that SDSers passed two ambiguous resolutions in support of business union campaigns which rather obviously came from the Maoist sect FRSO. In the brief period allotted for opposition, no one mentioned the intellectually bankrupt group behind these resolutions or the historical dead-end of traditional unions.

The fact that a person who puts forward a proposal is a member of a political group that we have disagreements with does not in itself show that the proposal should be rejected or is a bad idea. That would depend on the content of the proposal. I don't know which campaigns these were, but workers do in fact organize struggles through the mainstream AFL-CIO or CtW unions, and the fact that these unions are the means of struggle in a particular case is not a reason to not support that struggle. I don't know what the "campaigns" are so I can't say anything pro or con but the fact that they derive from the mainstream unions is not in itself a reason to turn up one's nose in this way.

I also find the anonymous document's emphasis on getting students to think like workers is a bit odd. This would make sense if we're talking about a college where you have a mainly working class student body. when i taught at a state college in the '70s in an industrial city in the midwest, i did have mainly working class students. but that was then. One of the things that has changed since the '60s/'70s, the era of the original SDS, is the massive inflation in fees to go to universities, and the shrinkage of resources available to potential working class students.

I'd understand this if it was about getting working class youth, or students at community colleges maybe, or mabye certain public state colleges, to think like workers. But students at PhD granting institutions, and expensive private colleges, for example are, in my observation, mainly drawn from the professional/managerial strata, or "upper middle class" as some people would say. The main function of the university system, especially the institutions that grant graduate degrees, is to train the future cadres of the professional/managerial hierarchies in the corporations and the state. Because the professional/managerial strata don't pass on class advantages to their children via inheritance of big fortunes, this segment of society focuses on getting its children through higher education insitutions.

If one wants to talk about class and students, it seems that one would address the class composition of the student population, how this varies from one sort of educational institution to another, how this is affected by things like the high cost of higher education, and what students are being trained to do.

2 October, 2007 - 11:29
syndicalistcat wrote:
I'd understand this if it was about getting working class youth, or students at community colleges maybe, or mabye certain public state colleges, to think like workers. But students at PhD granting institutions, and expensive private colleges, for example are, in my observation, mainly drawn from the professional/managerial strata, or "upper middle class" as some people would say. The main function of the university system, especially the institutions that grant graduate degrees, is to train the future cadres of the professional/managerial hierarchies in the corporations and the state. Because the professional/managerial strata don't pass on class advantages to their children via inheritance of big fortunes, this segment of society focuses on getting its children through higher education insitutions.

I assume you are only talking about the U.S. here, not Canada (where education is more affordable). I do think that despite the rising costs parents and students make considerable efforts to get into college, often with excessive loans they'll be paying off for decades. Seems like many have traded off home ownership for "job training." I think it's illuminating to look at the high levels of college education among young workers.

U.S. 2000 Census: Earnings by Occupation and Education

What seems clear is that a majority of the working population in the U.S. age 21-34 has at least "some college" or more education. This is also still the case for 35-44. Maybe the post 2000 college age people have felt a greater pinch and I'd like to see some data that actually proves that.

The difference in median earnings for 25 to 34 years in median earnings between High School Graduate and Some College is $3488. It's a little more pronounced for those who actually get a Bachelor's degree (apparently a minority)... that difference between High School Grad and Bachelor's Degree is $11,691.

I realize that median earnings is a very limited statistic, but I still think it is a somewhat useful one in this case.

How many students who come from working class backgrounds, who are working some service industry job while trying to pay their way through college--drop out? Particularly if they rationalize that they can have a higher or more stable income working a skilled trade?

Anyway, yeah... Advanced Degrees make up a minority of population, and a minority of those who even attend college. Some of them go on to be managers. Not sure that is a reason not to have student groups to focus on working class issues and think of themselves as young workers; since most of them are/will be. It would be a good goal for SDS to be reflective of the working class majority of students and focus more attention on community college, state colleges, etc... that said, it's often pretty hard for someone who is going to school and working at the same time to do much more than that.

2 October, 2007 - 12:28
Iron Column wrote:
As regards the CSWA, "jobs for justice/break the chains" campaigns we were not claiming these particular drives came from or were inventions of Maoist sects, but rather these proposals originated in the Convention from Maoists, which is true.

Wait, so instead of looking at a proposal, campaign, struggle, etc., on its own merits, you judge it on whether or not it's completely free of association with Leninists? That's a good way to cut off your nose to spite your face. Even the most broken clock is right twice a day, and if you're talking Freedom Road (the one that exists beyond the internet), who have a decent track record of prioritizing base-building over party-building (in fact this decision provoked the split), that average goes above two. Often, they participate (even visibly) in solid grassroots groups and initiatives that they don't "control" or whatever; they don't set up front groups. There's no reason to join them, and we should have no illusions about what they will become in a revolutionary situation. But if they're participating in SDS, I can't imagine it would be on similar grounds to the PLP attempt to "take over" the original SDS. How about you listen to what they have to say and draw your own conclusions? Libertarian doesn't have to mean fragile and sheltered.

2 October, 2007 - 15:45

Yes, i think the proportion of the population with "some college" has risen over the years, but the working class has remained roughly the same proportion of the population in the U.S. for the past 50 years at least. My guess, tho, is that most of this is by way of community and public state colleges.

Actually it's been true for some time that a fraction of the working class has "some college" (my father, who worked as an electrician, had gone to the U of Penn to study electronics, at nite, for 2 years in the '30s), especially nowadays with AA degrees for various kinds of vocational programs. And it's not the case that we want the working class to NOT pursue more education.

When i taught nite classes at San Jose State some years back, it was my impression that i had largely working class students. Many of them were immigrants.

And certainly we want students to support worker struggles, to ally themselves with the working class.

2 October, 2007 - 16:22
syndicalistcat wrote:
Yes, i think the proportion of the population with "some college" has risen over the years, but the working class has remained roughly the same proportion of the population in the U.S. for the past 50 years at least.

How are you defining working class here though?

Over all the current 18-34 generation is quantitatively smaller in population than their parents (the boomers). The working class in the U.S. was enlarged by women involved in manufacturing, which was then reduced, but then women are increasingly a part of the formal labor force (shouldn't that effect the "same proportion of the population is working class"). Apparently, electricians with some college are regarded as working class for the last 77 years or so. Also, only now are the boomers starting to retire.

I don't know exactly where you draw the line between working class and techno-managerial. I suggest, however, that line can't be whether folks have some college education. Someone without a college is education is overwhelmingly likely to be part of the working class (obviously some exceptions in the petit bourgeoisie, among low level managers, etc...); it also seems like a majority of those with some college are working class as well. Obviously, college education improves changes for upward class mobility, but it doesn't guarantee.

2 October, 2007 - 17:40

Flint:

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I don't know exactly where you draw the line between working class and techno-managerial. I suggest, however, that line can't be whether folks have some college education. Someone without a college is education is overwhelmingly likely to be part of the working class (obviously some exceptions in the petit bourgeoisie, among low level managers, etc...); it also seems like a majority of those with some college are working class as well. Obviously, college education improves changes for upward class mobility, but it doesn't guarantee.

Right. If the proportion of people with college degrees grows more rapidly than jobs in the professional/managerial layers, the result will be an inflation in credentials requirements, for one thing.

I would define the working class the way Zweig does in "The Working Class Majority". Those people who must seek employment since they don't have their own means of earning a livelihood, and who are subject to fairly tight management control over their work, are lacking in the autonomy characteristic of much "professional" work, are thus subordinated, and do not control other workers, that is, do not particpate in the management of the labor process.

Andrew Levinson's attempt to figure out the size of the working class back in the '70s came up with roughly the same percentage as Zweig.

on the point about people going into hock to finance their educations, there is a good article in today's S.F. Chronicle:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/09/30/financial/f111354D50.DTL&hw=Marcy+Gordon&sn=001&sc=1000

The article points out that in the last 10 years fees & tuition for college has risen 79% whereas inflation has been 29% in that period. the reduced capacity to spend from the "indentured servitude" (as one person in the article says) of ex-students with loans is expected to undermine consumer spending.

3 October, 2007 - 07:10

What about the tamil tigers trying to bust a CNT-vignoels strike a few years back on behalf of the employer?

3 October, 2007 - 13:54
OliverTwister wrote:
What about the tamil tigers trying to bust a CNT-vignoels strike a few years back on behalf of the employer?

Hello, Non sequitur.

3 October, 2007 - 16:19
Quote:
This totality of oppressions implies the equality of all forms of oppression, and therefore, mystifies the true class composition of capitalist society. Only the working class, through its own efforts, can bring about the social revolution. This “equality of oppressions” schema is nothing more than a theoretical incitement to scabbing. For example, if a strike is in progress, and the boss wants to break it, conceivably the boss would simply bring in members of one identity group and encourage workers to leave their pickets.

I think the last two sentences are pretty bold overstatements, but there's a kernel of truth, of which the Frog pub strike is an example.

3 October, 2007 - 18:05

Oliver, when members of an ethnic minority scab on a strike out of solidarity with the owner, how are they treating class oppression equally with their own condition as a disadvantaged immigrant minority? In fact they aren't. They're failing to see class oppression at all. That's the opposite of "treating all oppressions equally."

The problem with the old stance of the primacy of class is that it led to not adequately addressing the reality of race and gender oppression.

3 October, 2007 - 18:07
OliverTwister wrote:
Quote:
This totality of oppressions implies the equality of all forms of oppression, and therefore, mystifies the true class composition of capitalist society. Only the working class, through its own efforts, can bring about the social revolution. This “equality of oppressions” schema is nothing more than a theoretical incitement to scabbing. For example, if a strike is in progress, and the boss wants to break it, conceivably the boss would simply bring in members of one identity group and encourage workers to leave their pickets.

I think the last two sentences are pretty bold overstatements, but there's a kernel of truth, of which the Frog pub strike is an example.

Because Tamil Tigers' proto-state conflict with the Sri Lankan government is relevant to striking workers in France... how? The Tamil Tigers hold the world record on suicide attacks; so they are a little nuts, no? You're stretching, and it's dumb. In no way can I think that SDS can seriously be argued to be theoretically inciting scabbing. It's a dishonest, shitty argument that makes those proposing it look like petty sectarians. That some folks want to keep dragging it out once there has been some efforts to clarify it, just makes them look like even pettier sectarians.

That's not to think I support "equality of oppressions", and I don't think anyone in this thread has done so.

4 October, 2007 - 00:30

Sorry this took so long, I finally have time to properly wade into this one.

For starters i want to say that i regret making comments on a situation I knew very little about after doing an obviously too brief reading of a statement about an event I wasn't present at.

I dont know the individuals involved in writing either statements, and should have looked a bit deeper before comenting...

One major worry I had about SDS is that it was going to take the path that so much student activism Ive witnessed takes, that is being trapped in white and middle class guilt.

The anonymous report (which was forwarded to me privately by one of the authors because I was always asking in different places what had happened at the congress) seemed to confirm a lot of my fears, both of liberal inactivity by so called anti authoritarians, and somewhat successful attempts at political manuvering by authoritarians.

Now it looks Like I may have jumped the gun a bit ( Im still not entirely sure either way),especialy dealing with race politics. I didnt know the specifics of the critique, as far as the accuracy of the individuals being targeted (again I still dont know for sure either way, but a second opinion by nefac folks helps a lot) in some areas. My concern was, and still is, that the group not be paralised by identity politics and vague "lets help other people" visions of solidarity.

Now for the record, Ive done a lot of work around racism, from individual work with people of color, to theory ( I was once the nefac black sheep, ranting on about Sakai's "settlers") to union organising in majority imigrant worplaces ( or the textile plant I used to work at for that matter). I take very seriously the barrier racism is and has historically been to bulding a truly solidaritous (is that a word?) movement. Having said that, one difference I tend to have with most white "anti racist" activists is the white guilt politics I refered to above. There has been no shortage of great campaigns, mass movements or revolutionary groups of people of color in North America. There has in recent times been a real shortage of organised, progressive, angry working class white folks. Thats my main concern and I think the mst effective way to be in solidarity with people of color, by seeing our liberation as intertwined (they need me and I need them).

One major difference I've seen in francophone Quebec student activism(vs english Quebec and the rest of the continent), has been its primary focus on "bread and butter" issues (vs solidarity with "other people"). For anyone who has followed politics here or has had the good fortune to be a part of it, the results are night and day. There is no shortage of international solidarity concousness among the movement here, the difference is the movement is big enough here (that is it touches people who then get involved) that it can actually make a difference...

Ive already made private critiques to IC around my opinion about "mainstream" unions, which may differ from even the other nefac folks, but thats another email...

Having said all that, I hope we can talk this stuff out togeather, and i look forward to meeting the new nefac folks at the congress in Bean Town next weekend, and I also hope we can continue to work with Iron Column and the folks he's working with too.

In Solidarity,
Dave