contact MERCI, they sometimes know.
Ethical jobs in the north west?
You could try contacting unicorn grocery in chorlton .it is entirely correct to try whenever possible to find more ethical work rather than setle for any coporate shit.often those who claim there is no value in this no full well it is just that they cannot be arsed to do it themselves!
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You could try contacting unicorn grocery in chorlton .it is entirely correct to try whenever possible to find more ethical work rather than setle for any coporate shit.often those who claim there is no value in this no full well it is just that they cannot be arsed to do it themselves!
yeah i heard most of the working class over there is basically either too lazy or too unethical to work for unicorn grocery in chorlton.
sheesh..here we go.why do some people always think internet postings are in reference to themselves?!
It is fucking obvious that some jobs are more ethcial than others and to deny this is fucking stupid. workers co cops,enviroment/animal friendly etc are obvioulsy more ethical than working for a big corp or some local corrupt council.
i cant be arse debating something that is obvious.nothing i said was in reference to anyone elses coments and was just a reply to help someone out who is looking for something more ethical to do for money.
Well, as we know, trust, ethical and moral behaviour are the bedrock of Anarchism. Tell us, where does this code of ethics come from? Surely it's time for us all to open our hearts and accept the baby Jesus into our lives. Even if you don't believe in religion as such, you’ve to accept that his infinite compassion shows us all the way forward. Careful inspection of the bible shows that he tried to be as vegan as possible too not to mention inventing serial monogamy and other socially progressive ethical choices.
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i cant be arse debating something that is obvious.
Is that your way of saying that you don't actually have an argument?
Leaving aside that where you work isn't actually a "choice" in any real sense for the vast majority of people, you can't say that a certain choice is more "ethical" than another without laying a moral judgement on the people who don't make that choice. Should people who don't work in fair trade, vegan hospitals for injured kittens feel guilty or something?
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It is fucking obvious that some jobs are more ethcial than others and to deny this is fucking stupid. workers co cops,enviroment/animal friendly etc are obvioulsy more ethical than working for a big corp or some local corrupt council.i cant be arse debating something that is obvious.nothing i said was in reference to anyone elses coments and was just a reply to help someone out who is looking for something more ethical to do for money.
first of all, actually its not obvious. just because a business is a workers co-op doesn't mean that all workers are treated equally or in fact, are full members of that co-op . it seems to me that its not fucking stupid to question what an ethical business actually is rather than reeling off the buzz words that tick the right anarchist buttons. just because a business is a workers co-op, the experiences of individuals working in that business should not be ignored.
theres also a problem in defining what ethical work is in seperating the employer from the work of the employee. i mean that a person whose work is socially useful (even if they work for a corrupt city council) is in my opinion engaged in more ethical work than a person selling vegan food to a relatively well off middle class upwardly mobile person. unicorn caters to a well heeled niche market essentially. what is ethical about that?
ethical work to me is work where you can use your skills to assist people to challenge the shit that buggers up their lives. thats real grassroots stuff and potentially, politically its powerful.
hey, i actually posted on libcom again 
Oh and another thing. If you really want to be "ethical" and do everyone a favour, you'll look after number one. That's not an opinion by the way, it's a mathematical fact. I mean, putting other people's “problems” at the same level as your own is just character armour to cover up one’s sexual hang ups anyway.
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why do some people always think internet postings are in reference to themselves?!
Good question. It reveals some truth about themselves, a truth they hate. They possibly sit on the wrong side of the paranoid personality disorder bar, slightly autistic, male thing. They might think people whispering in the pub are talking about them, especially if they hear key words that relate to their self appraisal.
A good little ethical occupation is driving a bus.
You get a route sheet at the start of every shift and then you are on your own for the rest of the day. I did it for three years and developed a system of "zen" driving: gliding like a moth from stop to stop; always polite; always waiting for pasengers to sit down before letting the clutch out; always a smile; always a welcome. And, if you work the hours, the money isn't too bad.
Peter Good(TCA)
This thread started off in the North West/Manchester.
If anyone fancies a challege to the 'eco-ethical consumer trip' how about this meeting in Chorlton, called 'Do you want to See Tesco in Chorlton? (and whats wrong with supermarkets anyway?) Wed. May 16th. 7.30pm. in the Loyds Pub function room (Wilbraham Rd... Speakers from Unicorn, Friends of the Earth, Women Working Worldwide and Booths?
And who knows, if you want a job? they might be recruiting?!
And if its too boring they do a nice pint of Lees bitter dowbstairs.
Andy,
But one part of your question was how to pull some money in fast. And money and ethics don't gel too well together. More often it's an either/or choice.
Sometimes you need money to do things. As a bus driver I used my overtime money to fund a radical publication. Most jobs stink. Maybe you can twist them round to suit your needs.
And I wear a hat and I did treat my passengers respectfully.
Regards
Peter(TCA)
eco-anarchist wrote:
It is fucking obvious that some jobs are more ethcial than others and to deny this is fucking stupid. workers co cops,enviroment/animal friendly etc are obvioulsy more ethical than working for a big corp or some local corrupt council
I just can't quite figure out what this ethical job would look like?
Do you mean a job in which you actually have some kind of control over your working life - like in a worker's co-op you have some kind of workplace democracy, in an environment-friendly place you get to choose not to pollute, and so on?
at this whole thread.
So I'm failing university... and more than likely be needing a job in order to pay for rent and stuff since I won't be getting a loan anymore.... Does anyone have any idea where I can get at least a semi ethical job in the northwest? I'd hate to end up working in a call center or something equally as soul destroying... Any ideas are welcome.