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Hi all,
Long time viewer, first time poster from Otautahi (Christchurch), New Zealand.
Thanks for such a well designed and functional site.
Jared
Hey Jared 
Good to see another person from this side of the Tasman on LibCom...used to be a fair few of us posting (with various frequencies) on here although most people seem to have drifted away...
Hi Asher,
Yeah that's a sad trend, one we may have to counter!
Hello, Adelaide.
Adelaide represent.
Hello again from sydney!
Hi, I've been posting on and off for a while but haven't introduced myself here.
But now I have!
The other day I got interviewed by the lovely Sam Newman of the Footy Show while waiting for a tram in Brunswick Melbourne to take me to Centrelink. He does vox pops in which he ridicules random people on the street.......I put in a plug for anarcho-syndicalism (via the AFL team Essendon which has colours of black and red). They cut most of it out which I like to tell myself probably means I gave as good as I got in the the following argument.....still, the basic plug went out on a widely watched (in Victoria) TV show.
And now my claim to fame is that I appeared on the Footy Show.........
Hey, i'm from Newcastle. I'm a member of Resistance, but don't get me wrong i'm a libertarian. Still dabbling back and forth between Left-Socialism and Anarchism (as I have been for about a year or more) ... perhaps someday i'll come to a conclusion. Anyway, whatup!
& then your name can have even more meaning!
I don't think I've introduced myself, I'm from Sydney. I help publish Mutiny zine & do other stuff sometimes. Hi.
Hey, i'm from Newcastle. I'm a member of Resistance, but don't get me wrong i'm a libertarian. Still dabbling back and forth between Left-Socialism and Anarchism (as I have been for about a year or more) ... perhaps someday i'll come to a conclusion. Anyway, whatup!
Resistance has a libertarian wing? Huh.
We're not the cult that SAlt are. Quite a few ideas get thrown around... I wouldn't say theres a 'wing', but there's *shock horror* room for individuality in some marxist groups.
SAlt scare me. The only thing that annoys me about resistance is the constant hailing of hugo chavez as a revolutionary, and of the chavez government as a socialist revolution. The fact that chavez has been in power for what, like, over a decade? Would(maybe maybe maybe) indicate that a revolution had not taken place at all, in the slightest.
What is even the nature of this politicians power? Didn't he used to be a general? Was it a Coup? Or was he the president that got in when all the 'left' parties coalitionized to win(did that even happen or did i make it up?)?
i hope i can find answers here, all the DSP cats ever tell me is that venezuela is going great and i should give them my email, oh and buy a copy of greenleft(for the solidarity price!).
Hello...I am on AABB as well under the same name but for those that don't know me hi
SAlt scare me. The only thing that annoys me about resistance is the constant hailing of hugo chavez as a revolutionary, and of the chavez government as a socialist revolution. The fact that chavez has been in power for what, like, over a decade? Would(maybe maybe maybe) indicate that a revolution had not taken place at all, in the slightest.What is even the nature of this politicians power? Didn't he used to be a general? Was it a Coup? Or was he the president that got in when all the 'left' parties coalitionized to win(did that even happen or did i make it up?)?
i hope i can find answers here, all the DSP cats ever tell me is that venezuela is going great and i should give them my email, oh and buy a copy of greenleft(for the solidarity price!).
Gabs, The Commune group put out a pamphlet fairly recently that provides a general overview of where Chavez came from, and the nature of his regime. It might help answer some of your questions. The revolution delayed: a decade of Hugo Chavez
SAlt scare me. The only thing that annoys me about resistance is the constant hailing of hugo chavez as a revolutionary, and of the chavez government as a socialist revolution. The fact that chavez has been in power for what, like, over a decade? Would(maybe maybe maybe) indicate that a revolution had not taken place at all, in the slightest.What is even the nature of this politicians power? Didn't he used to be a general? Was it a Coup? Or was he the president that got in when all the 'left' parties coalitionized to win(did that even happen or did i make it up?)?
i hope i can find answers here, all the DSP cats ever tell me is that venezuela is going great and i should give them my email, oh and buy a copy of greenleft(for the solidarity price!).
hey Gabs, sorry if this is a bit late.
I agree with the Chavez thing, what I guess you have to understand is the changing nature of Venezuelan society that is (amazingly) happening through the representative parliamentary system. Basically it's at the point there are tons of Communes springing up and several have already issued statements to the Venezuelan gov that if the gov ever tries to interfere in their affairs they will fight back. But as is they work with the gov for the sake of an working economy. The cult of personality about chavez does wierd me out a bit but at least he's doing positive things. Anyway that pamphlets probably the best thing to read about where he came from. I think if you read SA/res statements on it the 'organisation' realises it's not really a socialist system yet, but to sound cliche 'it's going positively.'
Also SAlt are freaking scary, we've had a few of their members leave and join Resistance and they can't believe the fact we aren't trying to brainwash or burn them out. Also they keep freaking lying about our politics (hell they probably lie about anarchist politics too) to their members and won't let them have contact with other groups. People also sadly get them confused for us...
peace.
Howdy all **me from Melbourne!**
From what i've heard, some of the arguements acknowledged by resy's, are things like the police breaking up actions/protests around the place, and that this is a result of chavez being a tyrannical dictator. The res response to this is to point out that the police aren't loyal to the state, they're loyal to the local bourgeoisie's in the municipalities, and none of this is the fault of chavez's govt.
My response to this is, you've had 10 years of "revolution" and you still have a bourgeoisie? Then how has this been a revolution?
The ballot box socialists seem to be crafty when they write or speak, in the way that they advocate revolution and denounce reform, but their revolution is about reform, reforming capitalism to a place where labour employs capital. It's always fun to call a long-term sociallist alliance convenor out at a lecture though.
I can't really see how people could be attracted to SA after it's pointed out by an anarchist at one of their lectures that in SA's idea, a revolution never actually takes place. It is funny though, to see them get all excited about the new french anti-capitalist party, while ignoring the subject of actually going about undoing capitalism.
In regards the cops things; it's true. In Venezuela the cops work for the State governments (not national), and almost half the states still belong to the opposition. I think you will find that this is where the violence is taking place. Remember the changes in Venezuela are happening through, yes, the ballot box. Can you imagine the violence if that place turned to insurrection?
You're right that it isn't really a 'revolution' i suppose, but it's ten years of really helping the poor, nationalising industries and putting them under workers control, and slowly building socialist foundations within the capitalist system. I guess we'll find out eventually if they manage to go the whole way and overthrow the system, i'm barracking for the Venezuelan left anyway.
SA is more of a platform approach, so you'll see SA documents talk about workers control, the way positive things work in the *socialist* countries that have existed. The *revolutionary* parties per se are such as DSP and all the other trots out there. Or maybe you!
Hi All,
Finally joined the forums after reading many articles. I am in Sydney and trying to work out where I fit in the revolutionary left. I used to love the USSR as a teenager, and recently looked the myriad of Trotskyist groups, but now would consider myself a left communist, leaning to council communism and autonomism. But I really like a lot of the anarchist theory I have read. To be a little simplistic it seems to me that communism is meant to be a stateless society so there are similarities with anarchism. But my understanding is at an early level. I think the class analysis of Marx also seems important, but once again my understanding is at an
I like a lot of what I have read about anarchist communism, although i also wonder if the Platformist position is right that some form of organisation and planning is needed to realise a successful revolution.
Finally my pacifist tendencies do make me feel slightly uncomfortable with a lot of the confrontation involved in the revolutionary left, but that is my problem to work out. But it seems to me revolution is essential; socialism by the ballot box can't work in my view.
Anyhow, enough of my rambling,
Best to all,
plc
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Hello All,
I've recently taken over as Anarchist Federation (GB & Ireland) international secretary for Oceania.
My email address is oceania@afed.org.uk
Give me shout if you need any info on what happening with us, or if you're in need of any literature.
Peace to all comrades out there