What is to be done? A proposal for an Aotearoa Anarchist-Communist Federation

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revol68 wrote:
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f you widened it to include anarcho-syndicalists as well

anarcho syndicalists are anarcho communists ffs!

why are people such fucking spastics?

No need to be rude revol, and it's not necessarily true - some people in the WSA for example aren't communists, like syndicalistcat on here. He's a Pareconite.

Anyway good luck asher and co with this. I hope libcom has proved useful in these efforts in some way?

If you did get a group started, one thing which we would like to encourage is for groups in certain areas/sectors to commit to contributing regular content to libcom from that region/sector. Because of course the more content that is here the better off everyone is, and regions which have good regular content could in the future get their own custom home pages: nz.libcom.org for example. Anyway, just a thought.

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If you did get a group started, one thing which we would like to encourage is for groups in certain areas/sectors to commit to contributing regular content to libcom from that region/sector. Because of course the more content that is here the better off everyone is, and regions which have good regular content could in the future get their own custom home pages: nz.libcom.org for example. Anyway, just a thought.

I definately like the sound of that. If things get going, I'll suggest that for sure. Even if not, I'll try to spread the word at the conference among people I think might be interested to try to get more NZ stuff on here regardless. In the meantime, I'm happy to keep cross-posting the features I write for Aotearoa Indymedia onto here as I have been recently.

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John. wrote:
revol68 wrote:
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f you widened it to include anarcho-syndicalists as well

anarcho syndicalists are anarcho communists ffs!

why are people such fucking spastics?

No need to be rude revol, and it's not necessarily true - some people in the WSA for example aren't communists, like syndicalistcat on here. He's a Pareconite.

but if you're a syndicalist, but don't espouse anarchist communism as the end point, doesn't that mean you're not an anarcho-syndicalist? maybe a revolutionary syndicalist, or just a syndicalist, but not an anarcho-syndicalist?

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I'm exaggerating a little here for effect, but it would surprise me greatly if this situation has changed in a deep manner.

I've definately noticed a strong change in the time I've been in Wellington, with more people identifying as something beyond anarchist. I think to some extent this has to do with the predominance of green/eco/post-left tendancies, and people wanting to clarify their own politics as something seperate from that (or a part of that), whether consciously or not.

well, that sounds like a bit of a change in wellington. yuk, post-left anarchism. are there many primitivists? they're even worse. I remember a time when there was only one anarcho-primitivist in the whole country. unfortunately he put out a terrible lifestyle anarchist magazine (the person and zine shall remain nameless).

but overall i doubt if it much of a change. i think the anarchist movement in NZ has its firm origins in the counterculture of the 1960s and 1970s rather than the anarchist movement itself. so the predominant form of anarchism has been lifestyle anarchism, whether in its hippie/eco/green/feral form or its punk form. I think the predominance of eco/green/post left anarchism in wellington at least is just an extension of this. At least the liberal anarchism a la the CEC has had its day! Or is counter cultural anarchism just a form of liberalism? Yes...

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Skraeling wrote:
are there many primitivists?

I can't think of any self-identified primitivists in the country, happily. A couple of people who are either ex-primmies or sympathise with primmies, but thats it.

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i think the anarchist movement in NZ has its firm origins in the counterculture of the 1960s and 1970s rather than the anarchist movement itself.

Thats interesting, hadn't thought about that at all before, but certainly sounds believable/relatively accurate.