Boss dramas - advice?

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Feb 7 2008 08:09
Boss dramas - advice?

At my mum's workplace, there is two women (mum's friends) who share the same position, and do the same work, and we found out today that since last October one of them has been paid at a much higher level then the other. Furthermore, it turns out she has been doing the other woman's work (two workloads), while the boss has clandestinely promoted the other woman (but they are still working near to each other). She confonted the woman (who are apparantly friends) and asked her why she's been doing her workload while the woman is getting paid more, and the response was 'you got a problem with that?' before running into tell the boss that she had found out. So it's pretty obvious that some secret consensus had been reached months ago between boss and her co-worker and kept from her for whatever reason. A few minutes later she was called into the bosses office and he told her that 'he didn't tell her cause he didn't want to upset her'. For a long time it seems like there is something (possibly romantic) between the boss and the woman and she is recieving preferential treatment over her co-workers as a result. Both women are 27 years old and he is 40. There has been mega dramas with this bloke over the last few years, the is the latest development and I thought I would see if anybody has any advice before they go through with the LSD in his tea & slashing his tyres I have been hearing about... lol. Mum's friend said she is gonna basically just slow right down and palm off as much work as possible to her boss & this woman now but I think they want this dealt with once and for all and are not really sure where to start cause he has everyone at each others throats. Mum also told me the boss has snitches who recieve preferential treatment.

Sorry if this is confusing but I didn't want to use names - you never know!

What is the first step? The girls are not unionised. What is our chances of getting compensation for the additional work she has been doing? Or just making his life a little harder?

Any advice at this point would be helpful!

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Feb 7 2008 09:04

Just in from another co-worker - after being confronted the woman ran in and interrupted a meeting where the boss was and said 'she knows!'

lol

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Feb 7 2008 09:16

where are you? in the UK that is illegal. there is a principle of equivalent pay for equivalent work, and another on less preferential treatment. both probably apply here. the difficulty of proving it, however, surrounds whether or not she can got hold of the other woman's old contract of employment before she was promoted. the employment contract should list all the duties each role entails, so you can then cross-reference the two contracts to find out how similar the jobs are. remember, the rule of equivalence is about equivalent skills needed and equivalent workloads - they don't have to be doign the same sort of tasks. this is quite hard to prove if they're not doing the same sort of tasks, but not impossible.

i'd say, a good starting point, legally, would be to try and get hold of that other woman's original contract. of course, it's generally a good idea to avoid the formal legal side of things because they can be very protracted, messy and expensive. if you can settle this without going to an employment tribunal it is best, especially if the boss is blatantly favouring one employee over another. it may come down to the boss's word against hers. and in the eyes of the courts, the boss's word is always more trustworthy roll eyes

it doesn't sound like it's a bullying or harrassment case YET, but for the time being it is best for the one getting paid less to write down in a diary everythign that happens to do with the issue, when (date and sign it) and with whom, so that if things get spiky there's good documentary evidence of any wrongdoing or mismanagement. it may well move towards harrassment if she begins to stand up for herself, so it is definitely worth keeping a diary of incidents.

i don't know how useful this stuff is, but it's worth knowing the legal context even if it doesn't get that far.

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Feb 7 2008 09:17

check out www.worksmart.org.uk for more legal eagle stuff

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Feb 7 2008 09:29

Thanks for the reply! I'll show Mum. We're in Australia

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Feb 7 2008 11:23

if you're in australia, check out http://www.rightsatwork.com.au/

i've heard it's quite a useful website for aussie legal stuff

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Feb 13 2008 11:04

Get as much down on paper is the general rule. Using a work email address is good because it records the questions and responses with dates etc.

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Feb 19 2008 08:20

Hey,

Yeah they have started recording everything and using work email to discuss this (which i said might be a bad idea). I think she has taken measures to seek compensation for all the work she did (on the hush atm).

The latest is a few of them in the office have been basically been unresponsive and giving her the cold shoulder and the snitch is not coping well. She is freaking out from what I have been told and keeps trying to justify her behaviour to them (to the point of yelling) and she even said she's seen a counciller and been diagnosed with depression over this now, lol

On a less funny note because they've been unresponsive and kind of cold to the snitch for the last week or so the boss has severely downgraded one girl's work (the one who was fucked on) which is a pretty good sign she is going to be redeployed out of the office. She has started to crumble and is basically now trying to make amends with this woman before she is shipped out. The snitch asked Mum to come for 'a walk' today and Mum basically said to her you've done your co-worker and friend and everyone in the office dirty by going behind our backs and feeding the boss information, lay down with dogs etc. She went off her fucking head about she has to respect management's decision and she didn't do anything wrong.

I think the odds are against them, she has been much more effective in moving around the office letting everyone know her side of the story first and so there is not a united front against her. They should have probably aired her out straight away but then that is why I posted here for!

Anyway, it's pretty fucked, Mum's about to retire in a few years and now she is going to catch hell for sticking up for her mate and I am really thinking about breaking this cunts jaw to be honest. But then that would probably be the worst thing to do.

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Feb 19 2008 12:22
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that would probably be the worst thing to do

Certainly if you have a post up online saying you'd like to do so, yes. I know you're pissed off, and rightly so, but you might want to be a bit more circumspect about some of what you're writing - there's easily enough detail here for someone who knows the situation to work out who you're talking about. As you said, you never know...

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Feb 19 2008 13:30

Dude, now I am really paranoid