The website of Leicestershire IWW has now got a page in Gujarati (cos there's a lot of Gujarati speakers in Leicester). So if you know any Gujarati speakers who read the language, send them to www.leicestershire-iww.org.uk then click on the Gujarati page link.
Aug 30 2006 18:52
Aug 30 2006 19:02
OliverTwister wrote:
Very cool.Esperanto next, right?
Coffee shop menu's do not constitute a language!
Aug 30 2006 19:12
what does that even mean?
Aug 30 2006 19:12
Heh heh... not a lot of call for it in Leicester. Besides, I know all the local Esperanto speakers already and one of them is already a member of Leics IWW. That makes us a double esperanto (in coffee shop terms).
Aug 30 2006 19:13
As a former barista I would call you a "doppio esperanto"
Aug 30 2006 23:26
i dont know what the hell you beatnik-coffee-types are talking about.
Aug 31 2006 08:53
nice work serge, all very cosmopolitan 
Aug 31 2006 10:01
synth_k1d wrote:
i dont know what the hell you beatnik-coffee-types are talking about.
it sounds like "espresso".
Aug 31 2006 21:12
surely you mean S express.
Sep 1 2006 11:33
don't be a fucking cock Jack.
Sep 1 2006 15:53
Jack wrote:
Serge Forward wrote:
The website of Leicestershire IWW has now got a page in GujaratiWhy not in Gaelic?
Because a Gaelic page would be totally useless in Leicester. Gujarati is the second most widely spoken language in the city, whereas there are probably more... er... Esperanto speakers than Gaelic speakers in Leicester.
But I'm sure that was just a piss take, Jack. So why did I bother to respond? Because I'm just bloody OCD that's why!
Sep 1 2006 23:33
That's pure magic. When the IWW storms the Highlands I'll gladly do the Gaelic page.
Jack and revol r c0cks. (/in a non-flaming sense)
Sep 2 2006 01:50
Volin wrote:
That's pure magic. When the IWW storms the Highlands I'll gladly do the Gaelic page.Jack and revol r c0cks. (/in a non-flaming sense)
here you fucking cock, i defended the fucking translation.
Sep 2 2006 09:12
can i ask, for clarification, where is Gujarati from originally? i assume it's somewhere in that south asia area, but that's about all i know...
Sep 2 2006 09:34
It's originally from northern India, chiefly Gujarat province, but it is spoken in Pakistan too. Many of the Gujarati speakers in Leicester come from east Africa (Kenya and Uganda).
Sep 2 2006 10:19
ta 
Sep 2 2006 14:14
Gujarati is also the fourth most common language in Greater London. So it's well handy having it.
Sep 3 2006 21:34
Definitely.
And the inclusion of further languages would probably be useful as well: has anyone looked into, for example, eastern european versions of anarcho-union stuff? Bearing in mind that there will soon be further immigration to britian (Romania & Bulgaria is it? excuse my ignorance), it would be good if we could welcome some foreign workers with something familiar and inclusive
...synf x
Sep 3 2006 22:57
I've seen anarchist fed stickers in polish on the tube
Sep 4 2006 09:36
Quote:
Many of the Gujarati speakers in Leicester come from east Africa (Kenya and Uganda).
Why's there a big influx of Indian-Africans to the UK? (I mean I can understand if there's unrest in E. Africa, but the UK bit...
)
Sep 4 2006 09:41
jason wrote:
Why's there a big influx of Indian-Africans to the UK? (I mean I can understand if there's unrest in E. Africa, but the UK bit...
Idi Amin expelled them in the 70s if I remember right, they had British Citizenship, or were given it, so they came here. They'd been moved to Africa (originally as personal servants I think) a long time before.
Sep 4 2006 22:34
There's presently a push on to get IWW stuff translated into Polish (for a start). Should have all the basics (application forms, introductions to the IWW etc.) within a couple of weeks. Hopefully some other Eastern European languages to follow.
Sep 4 2006 23:18
yeah sounds good given recent polish political history, with the whole "solidarity" thing overthrowing soviet rule. Then replacing it with free-market capitalism. Which is shite in one way, and in another illustrates the case for removal of leadership/vanguardism pretty well.
...synf x
Sep 5 2006 09:55
i think Gentle Revolutionary also transalted some stuff into serbian a while back. don't know where it is though.
Sep 5 2006 10:29
Be good to get hold of the Serbian stuff.
Seems to me, that groups could select the main non-English language spoken in their locality and get at least the membership form plus basic info translated. If you don't know anyone who'll do the translating gratis, there are a number of internet translation services that'll do this fairly cheaply.
That way, we can build up our foreign language materials in advance.
Meanwhile, if anyone wants an English version of the Gujarati flyer to give to translators, PM me with an email address and I'll email it to you in Word and pdf.
Sep 5 2006 11:16
McCormick wrote:
There's presently a push on to get IWW stuff translated into Polish (for a start). Should have all the basics (application forms, introductions to the IWW etc.) within a couple of weeks. Hopefully some other Eastern European languages to follow.
In the late 90s there was a Polish IWW branch set up (mainly leftists but a few anarchos involved). If no one in the IWW has contact with them, I can get in touch with some of the anarchos.
Regards,
Martin
Sep 5 2006 12:17
that would be grand 
Sep 6 2006 23:04
Preamble:
Bulgarian: http://www.iww.org/bg;
Greek: http://www.iww.org/el;
Polish: http://www.iww.org/pl;
Russian: http://www.iww.org/ru;
Serbian: http://www.iww.org/sr;
Finnish: http://www.iww.org/fi;
Swedish: http://www.iww.org/sv;
Japanese?: http://www.iww.org/zh-hans;
Note that some of these also have other info: the serbian one appears to have the "Intro to the IWW" written by GR.
Sep 7 2006 00:26
Hi Everyone, can I just ask, if the bulk of these Gujrati's came over so long ago why should we be translating anything for them, surely by now they must have picked up the lingo?
I say this as a son of immigrants from India, my parents were farmers in Punjab and had no education but they realised that learning the language of the host country was very important
I just feel that language classes would serve them better than translations
Sep 7 2006 00:45
That's a fair point Rahul. But I know a few people who speak English pretty well, but they find reading in English hard going. Mind you, I also know plenty of younger people who speak Gujarati but can't actually read it - so obviously English propaganda is more useful here. There are also a fair few people who haven't been here so long and only speak pretty basic English. There are also those who read both Gujarati and English but would be more inclined to read propaganda in their first language.
And many people do go to English lessons as well!
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Very cool.
Esperanto next, right?