IWW in Gujarati

#32

Feighnt

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Sep 10 2006 06:05

OliverTwister wrote:

Preamble:
Bulgarian: http://www.iww.org/bg;

Greek: http://www.iww.org/el;

Polish: http://www.iww.org/pl;

Russian: http://www.iww.org/ru;

Serbian: http://www.iww.org/sr;

Finnish: http://www.iww.org/fi;

Swedish: http://www.iww.org/sv;

Japanese?: http://www.iww.org/zh-hans;

Note that some of these also have other info: the serbian one appears to have the "Intro to the IWW" written by GR.

i'm pretty sure the last one is actually chinese, not japanese. japanese does use chinese characters in its writing, but there are no actual japanese-specific characters (hiragana, or katakana) on that site that i can see.

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Sep 10 2006 07:52

Rahul wrote:

Hi Everyone, can I just ask, if the bulk of these Gujrati's came over so long ago why should we be translating anything for them, surely by now they must have picked up the lingo?
I say this as a son of immigrants from India, my parents were farmers in Punjab and had no education but they realised that learning the language of the host country was very important
I just feel that language classes would serve them better than translations

Along with Serge's excellent points I'd just like to add that many immigrants find work within their own community and a grasp of written English is largely unnecesary. Also someone with a fulltime job working with people who speak the same language and a family who also do, will have less opportunity to learn. LEssons are a good thing but they cost money.

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Serge Forward

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Sep 10 2006 10:00

Jef is right. There are many reasons why people don't get round to learning English. Though English classes are actually free if you've been in the country more than 3 years.

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Sep 10 2006 16:01

Serge Forward wrote:

Though English classes are actually free if you've been in the country more than 3 years.

I didn't know that and I live in a high immigration area. How good is the provision and how well is it advertised?

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Serge Forward

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Sep 11 2006 07:16

It probably depends where you are. In the part of the country I live in, provision is very good and ESOL courses are pretty well advertised in various languages. Obviously, Leicester has possibly the highest immigrant population in the UK so a good level of provision is to be expected. But there's no reason why provision shouldn't be good in the rest of the country too, particularly as there's central government money available to colleges for this.

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Sep 14 2006 10:57

jef costello wrote:

Along with Serge's excellent points I'd just like to add that many immigrants find work within their own community and a grasp of written English is largely unnecesary. Also someone with a fulltime job working with people who speak the same language and a family who also do, will have less opportunity to learn. LEssons are a good thing but they cost money.

I'd add spoken as well, kurdish would be good (it's just a suggestion, as i have no knowledge of kurdish), try an wrestle them out of the hands of the PKK in london.

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Oct 13 2006 21:18

This is really great FWs. Do you lot want to do the Preamble next? Does anyone know - Oliver maybe? - if the union has a committee or whatever to work and coordinate translation work? In my branch in Minneapolis we're just starting to need some African languages, Somali and some others that I'm embarassed that I can't remember the names of. Hmong would also be useful here.

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Oct 13 2006 21:49

There are provisions for creating 'translation committees'. None currently exist, i think the first official one will be Spanish language which will sort of set the mold for the rest.