Legality of Swearing at Police

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When passing pigs I like to give them the finger just as a sort of silly defiance. T'would be nice to know whether I am going to get myself arrested for this and my rights. Of course it would be ridiculous if we were restricted from sticking up one of our own fingers, but then nakedness seems to be illegal under some situations.

Sorry i'm rambling again.....

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Im sure it was proved in court once that swearing directly at police - when no one else is around to see - is ok because police are meant to be hard men who can take a bit of swearing ( roll eyes roll eyes ) but if there are other people around its harder to get away with...

Not sure if thats true!

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The term 'freedom of speech' comes to mind.

Though I'm sure they'd find some reason to arrest you-'breach of the peace' can mean anything they want it to.

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They can arrest you for section 5 public order act which is a pretty broad one as well.

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Discusting. I can be arrested for holding one of my own members up? Madness.

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Under s5 POA, they have to give you a warning first, and they can only nick you if you continue to behave in a disorderly manner.

Of course, they can always not warn you, and just lie in court...

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It might not be legal but it is big, and it is clever.

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It is legal to insult the police institution however if you insult one specific police officer it is illegeal, though they must warn you before arresting you.
What is fun however is, when you are being arrested, aking the police officer if it makes them feel good to know that they are a member of the represive state apparatus, a pawn in the great game of chess between those who hate free thinking and those who think freely, also ask them if they feel hard knicking a seventeen year old who has significantly less muscle and general body than them, if they get a kick out of beating them up. It winds them up no end, they cannot answer yes because it makes them a monster and you can use it in court, remember anything you say can be used as evidence in court but so can anything they say, and they can't answer no because they are doing it.

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eeh...

no idea about the specifics (and it doesnt really matter anymore, as this thread is four years old!).

when i was in highschool, though, driving back home from school on the bus, apparently one of the kids quietly, without almost any of us knowing, flashed the middle finger to a cop car that passed us. probably just on a whim, not really serious.

the cop actually freaked out about it and *pulled over the bus*! and got on and made the kid apologize! what an ass - all of our parents thought he was a real dick about it. poor bus driver must've had half a heart attack, being pulled over driving a bus, was wondering what he could've done wrong. neutral

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anarcho-punk wrote:
What is fun however is, when you are being arrested, aking the police officer if it makes them feel good to know that they are a member of the represive state apparatus

Actually no, its really embarrassing when people do that. Like the police give a fuck.

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a pawn in the great game of chess between those who hate free thinking and those who think freely

Seriously, ghey.

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ask them if they feel hard knicking a seventeen year old who has significantly less muscle and general body than them, if they get a kick out of beating them up.

I'd get a kick out of beating up anyone who mouths off about a 'great game of chess between those who hate thinking and those who think freely'. There's no excuse for having less muscle than the cops anyway.

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anarcho-punk wrote:
It is legal to insult the police institution however if you insult one specific police officer it is illegeal, though they must warn you before arresting you.
What is fun however is, when you are being arrested, aking the police officer if it makes them feel good to know that they are a member of the represive state apparatus, a pawn in the great game of chess between those who hate free thinking and those who think freely, also ask them if they feel hard knicking a seventeen year old who has significantly less muscle and general body than them, if they get a kick out of beating them up. It winds them up no end, they cannot answer yes because it makes them a monster and you can use it in court, remember anything you say can be used as evidence in court but so can anything they say, and they can't answer no because they are doing it.

You can't use some rant about them being 'a pawn in the great game of chess between those who hate free thinking and those who think freely' in court! Wtf!

If you get nicked and you want to upset the cops, don't say SHIT. Nada. Zip.

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I'm not sure about the laws in the UK, but I tell you this...

A cop once heard me call him a "fucking pig" while driving past me. He threw it in reverse and preceded to slam me against his car and search me. He claimed it gave him probable cause to search me, which is enough for me to not want to do it again. I envoked the whole freedom of speech arguement, and he said that there's an offense here in North Carolina called "Verbal Abuse to an Officer" or some bullshit like that. I'm not sure if that's true, but I find that hilarious considering how many times douchebag coppers have cussed me out...I doubt the charges would ever hold up in court, so even if the law exists they would never charge you...

Moral of the story...don't cuss at a cop if you have anything on you.

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ghey.

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When I was just a kid I called a pig a fucking wanker, my brother had told me that they could not do anything about it but the copper got outta his car and gave me a little lecture and said that if I did it again I would be in trouble.So from my experience it ain't a good idea.

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people people, the moral of the story is don't swear at the cops - cos its pointless.

Don't swear, reason, whine, converse or debate with them.

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When I was just a kid I called a pig a fucking wanker, my brother had told me that they could not do anything about it

Well what he meant is they can't nick you properly cos your a kid; that doesn't mean they can't detain you and take you in, you just can't get charged. They most certainly can tell you not to call them fucking wankers, and this is not an ability unique to the constabulary either.

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What's funny about this is I bet the OP has gone on to be a polite sensible member of society - hell they might even be a cop themselves now!

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That pic right gives me the horn.

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guydebordisdead wrote:

ghey.

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a proper approach to revolutionary discipline cool

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guydebordisdead wrote:

Yup, figures the Irish would need a poster like that. If that was put out today it would include "don't drink and talk on internet message boards". The Irish + drink = many tales, half true at best, about how whomever's family single handely fought the entire British army to a standstill back in the day.

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Yup, figures the Irish would need a poster like that. If that was put out today it would include "don't drink and talk on internet message boards". The Irish + drink = many tales, half true at best, about how whomever's family single handely fought the entire British army to a standstill back in the day.

Here's a translation for North American dickheads spouting worn out stereotypes -

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guydebordisdead wrote:
Mick Black wrote:
Yup, figures the Irish would need a poster like that. If that was put out today it would include "don't drink and talk on internet message boards". The Irish + drink = many tales, half true at best, about how whomever's family single handely fought the entire British army to a standstill back in the day.

Here's a translation for North American dickheads spouting worn out stereotypes -

If they're such worn out sterotypes why did the IRA need to produce that poster?

Seriously though, I'm sure such tall tales are even more common in the Irish diaspora (and usually come complete with an insta-accent after the first drink) but generally you need to take anything said by a drunk Irishman with more than a grain of salt. At my most amenable I'll say that the Irish are great story-tellers who don't let the odd inconvenient fact or twelve get in the way of making it entertaining.

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So you're calling Irish people drunken liars? roll eyes

You're a cock.

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guydebordisdead wrote:
So you're calling Irish people drunken liars? roll eyes

You're a cock.

You should hear what I call Germans.

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Mick Black wrote:
You should hear what I call Germans.

I can only imagine it has all the originality of a Fawlty Towers sketch.

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Mick Black wrote:
Seriously though, I'm sure such tall tales are even more common in the Irish diaspora (and usually come complete with an insta-accent after the first drink) but generally you need to take anything said by a drunk Irishman with more than a grain of salt.

Tall tales and faux Oirish... reminds me of bouncing at an 'Irish' pub here. Most of the fights were over pissed up Australians having a blue over who was more Irish. Pretty funny - accents and all. The few times I had to kick out Irish natives from a pub were a bit more weird. Once a bloke was pissed as a newt and just kept getting in my face slurring "I've defended my country, I've defended my country". Woulda been interesting to talk to him more but he wouldn't say anything else but those lines. Staunch(?). The other stand out was two Irish blokes - not even pissed having an argument that was about to turn, about one fella trying to convince the other that he was a 'traveller'...
Irish 1: You're not a traveller
Irish 2: I fookin am
Irish 1: You're not a traveller
Irish 2: (steam coming out of his ears) I'm a traveller, so I am (which got my attention as I've found that as soon as an Irishman says "so I am" to make his point things are about to kick off .) Note: there's no smileys in real life wall
Irish 1: (laughing) But you can read
Irish 2: (slamming drink on bar and getting up)...
Cue me stepping in and changing the subject to boxing which seemed to calm the aggressive Irish 2.
I love the Oirish grin
all the best.
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Irish people don't say 'so I am'. If you want fucking stereotypes here you go - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwjsq1ZWZ5o

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The ones I've either worked with or kicked out of pubs have often said "so I..." to make a point that was beyond argument but of course I will happily defer to you on this point as I'm not Irish smile . My ear for the accent has gone too so if you could be so kind as to provide subtitles for the video... laugh out loud
all the best.
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Mick Black wrote:
drunken irish person

Drunken irish - thats tautology, you've already said they are irish.