Postal workers' national strikes, 2007

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Aug 9 2007 22:04
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oh cock after we just spent £150 printing that bulletin roll eyes

Postal workers don't seem happy:
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3562

this needs writing up for news, ideally with some quotes - but i not got time right now

It was a well produced bulletin - but £150???!!!!!!
Don't you guys have access to PCs, printers and duplicators/photocopiers?

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Aug 10 2007 05:57
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One guy posted a gem in relation to the announced talks between Royal Mail and CWU.
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your upset im a M/C sorter i turned up tonight expecting the picket and found were working!! no notice no consideration after all were just the guys who lost money for them !! going for my next job tomorrow applied to be a mushroom so i can sit in the dark and be fed on shite !!

a classic quote for future publishing.

It is a really old line, Revol.

Devrim

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Aug 10 2007 09:56
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It was a well produced bulletin - but £150???!!!!!!
Don't you guys have access to PCs, printers and duplicators/photocopiers?

Yeah but not at a days' notice. We weren't planning to spend anything near that next time, but bit the bullet to get it done in time for these strikes.

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Aug 10 2007 10:17

Northern Ireland No. 1 branch committee just been sacked by Billy Hayes according to RMC.

Same branch that was out on wildcat last year.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3599&highlight=

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Aug 10 2007 10:46
Mike Harman wrote:
We weren't planning to spend anything near that next time, but bit the bullet to get it done in time for these strikes.

Good on you's, I printed out copies of the bulletin and was well impressed.

Is there a donation link on the homepage? If it costs a thousand-odd quid for hosting on libcom, I think since you're providing a valuable service you could probably get contributions from a few left libertarian groups. wink *legs it before being lynched by said groups*

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Aug 10 2007 11:27

Hosting itself isn't over 1000/year yet but it will be next time we have to upgrade.

Donation sutff is on http://libcom.org/notes/donate

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Aug 10 2007 11:55

just to confirm - todays strike from 2:30 has been cancelled.
wrong no see next post

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Aug 10 2007 12:00

no - 1'm 95% sure 2:30 is Crown Post Offices, not Royal Mail. RM strikes were scheduled for 7pm but have been called off.

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Aug 10 2007 12:14

AHA!

Nice one JK.

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Aug 10 2007 13:14
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oh cock after we just spent £150 printing that bulletin

Told you, didn't I? (On the Workers Liberty thread, IIRC).

Wreckers! angry

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Aug 10 2007 13:42

Burlsem walked out this morning. No idea what it was about yet:
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3473

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Aug 10 2007 15:47

Also there's going to be a one hour stoppage in South East London over a local dispute, still going ahead apparently:

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35584#35584

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Aug 10 2007 17:02
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no - 1'm 95% sure 2:30 is Crown Post Offices, not Royal Mail. RM strikes were scheduled for 7pm but have been called off.

saying this i swung by the PO at about 2:45 and nobody was about outside and it was open and working (though possibly understaffed, i couldn't tell if that meant there was a strike or if that's the habitual understaffing). this PO's being closed and moved to WHSmiths too, though on a day like today in brighton i wouldn't hold it against them if the beach trumped picket duty, sous la grève, la plage!

edit: also for some reason i wrote "1'm" not "I'm." 1 mu5t b down wiv da kidz

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Aug 10 2007 18:37

ours was open too, though there are manifest confusions over where why how...

had lots of public-aimed material so just dished that out instead.

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Aug 10 2007 18:41

The post office strike was only supposed to be at Crown post offices I believe - there are only 83 of them in the country i think.

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Aug 10 2007 19:03

we were where we were meant to be, just a communications gap on what we were focussing on - Dispatch or our other material for the public.

Is popping copies of dispatch in post boxes still wanted?

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Aug 10 2007 19:38
Tacks wrote:
we were where we were meant to be, just a communications gap on what we were focussing on - Dispatch or our other material for the public.

Is popping copies of dispatch in post boxes still wanted?

I spose it can't hurt, though really we need something new, at least when it becomes clear what's going on.

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Aug 14 2007 04:05

OK wildcat at burslem was a mass sit-in, dunno what it was about edit: yes i do: http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=343&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=330

Streatham and Watford threatened with docked pay for "doing the job properly" - unlikely to come to anything because it's not even a full work-to-rule.

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Aug 15 2007 13:25

24 hour strike in Luton today - driver who left his keys in the van by mistake, van got nicked, driver got sacked:

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1500&highlight=

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Aug 17 2007 17:44

It looks as though some people who are not using their cars, starting early and generally doing the job as it should be done have had one days pay docked because managers are saying it's industrial action.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3749&highlight=sw16

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Aug 17 2007 20:49

Article on the recent strike by the same postie who wrote the piece in the 'Dispatch' leaflet - here.

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Aug 18 2007 13:46
Ret Marut wrote:
Article on the recent strike by the same postie who wrote the piece in the 'Dispatch' leaflet - here.

That's a fine piece. Just about sums things up nicely. I hope he/she will be writing more articles on the dispute.

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Aug 18 2007 13:51

Cheers 40-20, I will pass your appreciation on.

Mike Harman
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Aug 18 2007 15:15

South East and South West London out 25th and 28th August. This was balloted prior to Streatham dockings afaik but it's about local management so tangenitally related.

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Aug 18 2007 15:15

Sorry I'm just a little confused here. I thought this was supposed to be an anarchist forum. This entire discussion is about a postal strike that is instigated by a hierachical organization that effects control over the individual. Sorry but maybe I'm wrong, but what about the thousands of postal workers that voted against strike action? People always forget about them. There are billions of people in this world who would do anything for the opportunity to have a job like theirs. You don't like your job then quit it. That's anarchist philosophy in action.

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Aug 18 2007 15:17
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Sorry but maybe I'm wrong, but what about the thousands of postal workers that voted against strike action?

If they didn't abide by the democratic decision of their colleagues, they're scabs. And we never forget about scabs.

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Aug 18 2007 16:38
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Sorry but maybe I'm wrong, but what about the thousands of postal workers that voted against strike action?

If they didn't abide by the democratic decision of their colleagues, they're scabs. And we never forget about scabs.

Just to stress that we don't want to fetishise democracy - we'd support whatever we viewed was in the best interests of workers - so a militant minority picketing out everyone else would still be supported. "Anti-hero" I would suggest you don't know what anarchism is.

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Aug 18 2007 17:02
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Mike Harman wrote:
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Sorry but maybe I'm wrong, but what about the thousands of postal workers that voted against strike action?

If they didn't abide by the democratic decision of their colleagues, they're scabs. And we never forget about scabs.

Just to stress that we don't want to fetishise democracy - we'd support whatever we viewed was in the best interests of workers - so a militant minority picketing out everyone else would still be supported. "Anti-hero" I would suggest you don't know what anarchism is.

Yeah, could've been worded better, I was in a state of mild shock sad

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Aug 19 2007 00:36
anti-hero wrote:
Sorry I'm just a little confused here. I thought this was supposed to be an anarchist forum. This entire discussion is about a postal strike that is instigated by a hierachical organization that effects control over the individual. Sorry but maybe I'm wrong, but what about the thousands of postal workers that voted against strike action? People always forget about them. There are billions of people in this world who would do anything for the opportunity to have a job like theirs. You don't like your job then quit it. That's anarchist philosophy in action.

Is it really? Oh well, never mind. We'll all just have to carry on fighting for jobs and better conditions without having had the benefit of reading obscure books from Freedom Press and arguing about their contents in the Student Union bar. However will we manage without middle-class shite like you? Still, we'll give it a go.

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Aug 19 2007 06:45
Ret Marut wrote:
Cheers 40-20, I will pass your appreciation on.

More feedback here:
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3766

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