Stop the War march on the 24th Feb...anyone?

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2existis2resist
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Feb 22 2007 12:47
Stop the War march on the 24th Feb...anyone?

Is anyone planning on attending the march on Saturday? It would be great to have an anarchist presence at the march. According to various sources it should be a very large march. Time to raise some awareness?

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Feb 22 2007 12:50

Ill be there with so comrades from Student Direct Action and Solidarity Federation, but i will be marching with the MMU and UMSU block as ill be on a recruiting mission whilst im down there.

If you wanna meet up with us look for the kick ass red flags, and red and black flags.

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Feb 22 2007 13:05

12 noon near speakers corner is the anarcho meet up point.

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Feb 22 2007 13:06
nastyned wrote:
12 noon near speakers corner is the anarcho meet up point.

Cool, i doubt ill join the anarcho block, i think its more important to try and talk to peopel on my block that i dont know and i can get involved in SF and SDA

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Feb 22 2007 13:08

a load of the SWA mob are going down, I developed an allagy to london demos a little while ago though.

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Feb 22 2007 13:41

Ill give you your DVD, i totally forgot to send it.

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Feb 22 2007 13:44
Jack wrote:
you rushing off at the end, or gonna come to the pub?

Blatantly the pub.

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Feb 22 2007 13:46
WeTheYouth wrote:
Jack wrote:
you rushing off at the end, or gonna come to the pub?

Blatantly the pub.

why not be more dialetic like Organise! are and rush off to the pub, preferably before being told alot of shite you already know by some fucking liberal gobshite the trots have lined up to speak.

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Feb 22 2007 13:47
revol68 wrote:
WeTheYouth wrote:
Jack wrote:
you rushing off at the end, or gonna come to the pub?

Blatantly the pub.

why not be more dialetic like Organise! are and rush off to the pub, preferably before being told alot of shite you already know by some fucking liberal gobshite the trots have lined up to speak.

Because ill be trying to get people interested in SF and SDA.

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Feb 22 2007 13:51
Jack wrote:
I'll speak to other SL comrades and see if anyone wants to come to the pub if not the demo.

Not after last week's adventures. grin

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Feb 22 2007 15:21

I'm gonna be with the @ bloc. just hoping there's no numpties wanting to do their "direct action" (which is neither direct nor action)...meh

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Feb 22 2007 20:13

I did a bit of leafleting in Manchester a while back, I did my own one off version, thanks to the librating photocopier at work. (Hence it was free) It’s worth trying to get in front of the march (Hog the pavement) and leaflet people. It’s very temping to leafleting people on the march but “try” and avoid leafleting people on the march. If they want it then give it to them but it’s like preaching to the preached.

I think I got hecked by a Labour MP in Manchester and by a couple of other people which was quiet amusing.

I might turn up as I haven’t been to a demo in London for a while.

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Feb 23 2007 10:14

comrades from the ICC will be giving out a leaflet based on the front page of the current paper http://en.internationalism.org/wr/301_lead.

We would welcome any assistance in giving them out. We will also try to set up a literature stall in or around Trafalgar Square and would be happy to meet and discuss with anyone from libcom.

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Feb 24 2007 21:23

Just got back from this. If some idiot with long, curly hair tried selling any of you a copy of Now or Never! then that was probably me.

I can't help but feel disappointed by the lack of libertarian socialist presence on the march. As always, there was no end to the people trying to unload various leninist propaganda, but virtually no anarchists doing the same. Me and Tug were both there selling Now or Never!s (although as much as I love Now or Never!, I have to admit that it's definately not the best introduction to anarchism), I saw one guy giving away resistance and I believe there was someone selling Class War (again, not an excellent intro to libertarian politics) and that was about it. I saw a small number of red and black flags, but most people marching nearby were just punks.

It's perfectly understandable why there aren't more of our lot on these marches. They do fuck all in terms of furthering the class struggle or stopping the war, but nevertheless, a lot of people who are disillusioned with the current state of things go on these marches, people who could potentially become anarchists if we reached out to them, but instead they are going to get pulled into some trot organisation. Obviously, the trots are going to have a larger presence than us anyway, but the fact that there wasn't really any visible anarchist presence doesn't fill me with much hope.

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Feb 24 2007 22:16

thats a shame mate, the manchester anti-war demo libertarian block with 100 odd participants and dozens of red and black flags was really uplifting for most and while we didn't have enough literature to hand out (the leaflets went quickly) it was a great day out.

But it didn't happen spontaneously, folk had to put some effort into it, not obscene amount by any means but anyway it required some organising and pulling together by AF and SolFed folk.

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Feb 24 2007 22:59

Some kids even decided to join purely because they thought our flags looked cool.

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Feb 25 2007 17:48

Where the hell was this autonomous bloc? Me and several others split up and spent the entire march, and rest of the day in trafalgar searching high and low for even the slightest hint of an anarchist presance.

I bumped into a few anarchists during the day who were all pretty pissed at the lack of an utonomous bloc.

And we couldn't fucking see one. Nor any anarchist material, that was supposedly handed out.

Furthermore there are no photos of this autonomous bloc.

Were you all invisable?

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Feb 25 2007 18:37

Someone's actually going to have to organise the anarchist block properly - have some proper kind of strategy for these things. Coconut Man is right - this is a massive opportunity to sell our ideas - be seen as a viable alternative (or at least start to look like one). I think this means it'll have to organised way in advance, flyered, postered, get placards made, maybe even some red/black flags to give away, have some if our photographers, generalised anarchist crits of war/protest printed up etc. rather than just being posted about TWO DAYS before the thing happens, then be surprised that no one shows up.

What did you guys do in Manchester in terms of organisation?

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Feb 25 2007 18:42

There was an autonomous bloc. There was a banner which read "RESIST" on it. There was a vortex banner. I say about 100 people on it. Loads of punks, though I think they were there by chance - not sure. The bloc was at the back of the march. I left when it left Hyde Park Corner some 2 and a 1/2 hours later. Pictures will be posted soon.

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Feb 25 2007 20:55

When we organised the block In Manchester last september we started with a planning meeting around 3 weeks before the march. Then we discussed a joint leaflet. We organised flag making and placard making.- and we were visible. It takes effort, comrades.

raw
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Feb 25 2007 21:17

This is the only photo I can find. Though will try and get my mates photo's online.

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Feb 25 2007 21:44

one good thing about the manchester march: no masked folk grin

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Feb 25 2007 21:50

So Saturday was a busy day for anarchists then. Here we are at the Rossport Solidarity March in Dublin.

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Feb 25 2007 22:05
raw wrote:
I say about 100 people on it. Loads of punks, though I think they were there by chance - not sure.

I think it might have been because of the King Blues saying they were going to be playing on the demo. smile

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Feb 25 2007 22:14
JDMF wrote:
one good thing about the manchester march: no masked folk grin

I don't judge people if they choose to wear a mask on a demo. My only concern is that its mostly for image/radical chic which I do mind and not for practical reasons.

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Feb 26 2007 09:33

There was an autonomous bloc and if you positioned yourself at beginning of march at Hyde Park it would have been fairly easy to have spotted it as it marched past.
Interestingly, there were masked people behind the banner of the YOung Communist League!!! ( youth wing of the Communist Party of Britain)!

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Feb 26 2007 09:35

And there was a big Anarchist Federation banner on the bloc as well as banners already mentioned. We managed to set up a stall at end of demo and flogged fair bit of lit as well as distributing about a thousand Resistances

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Feb 26 2007 10:41

The march on Saturday was a little disappointing but I enjoyed wearing the lab coats and masks, bloody police tail for most of it. We felt very guilty after sitting down in front of a chalked message not realising that people where taking our picture with the message. My apologies go out to the poor anarchist whose thunder we stole. The police were twats, arresting people for chalking messages-criminal damage i was told by the police.

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Feb 26 2007 11:00
2existis2resist wrote:
The march on Saturday was a little disappointing but I enjoyed wearing the lab coats and masks, bloody police tail for most of it. We felt very guilty after sitting down in front of a chalked message not realising that people where taking our picture with the message. My apologies go out to the poor anarchist whose thunder we stole. The police were twats, arresting people for chalking messages-criminal damage i was told by the police.

Ah you see, if you wear a mask it means you won't be handed a leaflet about Libcom - shame the same doesn't work with the trot-bots.

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Feb 26 2007 11:41
raw wrote:
JDMF wrote:
one good thing about the manchester march: no masked folk grin

I don't judge people if they choose to wear a mask on a demo.

This was a peaceful anti-war demo. They weren't robbing a bank ffs!

It might seem like a minor detail, but I think masking up at something like this does nothing except reinforce a negative stereotype of anarchists.

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Feb 26 2007 13:43
Coconut man wrote:
raw wrote:
JDMF wrote:
one good thing about the manchester march: no masked folk grin

I don't judge people if they choose to wear a mask on a demo.

This was a peaceful anti-war demo. They weren't robbing a bank ffs!

It might seem like a minor detail, but I think masking up at something like this does nothing except reinforce a negative stereotype of anarchists.

whatever, like I said I don't judge people if they want to wear a mask or not. I didn't feel the need so I didn't - I rarely see the need to mask up on most occasions in this country. However you never know what may happen and since there are cameras everywhere it is a precaution and has saved people from being identified.