Tea Break: next issue discussion

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After some productive discussions at the bookfair, it was decided to get some discussion going with a view to producing the next issue of Tea Break. I suggest we initially use this thread to brainstorm ideas for content for the next issue, set a definite time-scale for it and then delegate people to write stuff.

If people want to discuss the politics of Tea Break (such as which groups of workers we should or shouldn't support/mention), please start a thread in theory as this thread is for practical organising.

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Definitely something on the economic crisis and what it will mean for working class living standards

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From memory the topics discussed were

- a more 'general' lead on the financial crisis and the implications for workers
- upcoming london transport strikes (bus drivers)
- upcoming PCS strikes?
- ?

There are some (literally) back of an envelope minutes somewhere which will hopefully expand this list.

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If there are teachers' strikes upcoming we should have something on the importance of industrial solidarity: against the culture of NUT and NASUWT members crossing each others picket lines; the seperation between workers in standard state schools and academies (effectively enforced at present by the unions); and the need for teachers, classroom assistants, and other staff (canteen/cleaning/admin etc.) not to cross each others' picket lines.

I know there's a second day of london bus drivers' strike action scheduled for Wednesday. Are there any after that? Perhaps we could review how these two days have gone, and look at lessons for next time

There were a few people at the discussion who work in local government. Because I guess these people will be giving it out, maybe something on local government?

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Yes the minutes will soon be typed up on an e-mailed out to everyone.

Apart from the issues mentioned, Unite's NHS strike ballot is probably the other major dispute right now. There are lessons from the local government workers dispute for other workers which we can right up.

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If there are teachers' strikes upcoming we should have something on the importance of industrial solidarity: against the culture of NUT and NASUWT members crossing each others picket lines; the seperation between workers in standard state schools and academies (effectively enforced at present by the unions); and the need for teachers, classroom assistants, and other staff (canteen/cleaning/admin etc.) not to cross each others' picket lines.

Whilst i am all for industrial solidarity and the need to raise it as an issue, i think that just simply making a call for solidarity isn't enough. Not only do you need an analysis of why the unions operate against this, but also an historical (recent) understanding of workers previous experience. Esp of what they precieve to be other workers disregard of their issues. Also the workplace cultures that foster this separation particularly between 'manual' and 'educational' workers.

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Sure - but I think we're just throwing out broad ideas here. I don't know if an analysis of why unions operate in the way they do is in the remit of Teabreak, but I agree with the rest. e.g. on workplace cultures, someone was saying to me last night, stuff like the teachers insisting they be called "Ms...", while TAs go by their first names - to show rank.

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At my school the TAs often give their first names to students who are often allowed to use them, but teachers in my department refer to each other as Ms and Sir all the time. TAs use first names because their work is often improved by making a distinction between them and the teachers. I'm not saying there aren't problems but it does depend a lot on the schools.

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TAs use first names because their work is often improved by making a distinction between them and the teachers.

I've worked in both schools and sixth form colleges before, not as a TA but sometimes similar kinds of work, and I agree with this a lot.

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Ed makes his kids call him "Sir"...

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Kids call me 'sir' when i go into schools, but only cos of convention.
Though I subbed in an integrated school a few months ago and all the teachers were referred to by first name, was much nicer I thought.

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No, they have to call me sir.

There definitely is a hierarchy between TAs and teachers though..

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Different responses to the crisis: both fear and militancy. At JCB, workers voted for a £50 a week pay cut to 'safeguard' 350 jobs after a deal agreed between union and bosses. At Fords Southampton there was an unofficial walkout over pay and as mentioned different public sector workes are due to strike, also over pay. The crisis may be a factor of intimidation up to a point, but there is also a huge groundswell of anger and reluctance to 'pay for' what is widely seen as the crisis of the bosses' system. This could be dealt with in Tea Break.

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Was thinking it might be an idea about knocking some bits together for a possible next issue. I know Joseph K was keen on writing something about the financial crisis and how it will affect workers. Would also be good to have a run down of how the unions have fucked the pay dispute so far. Steven., do you think you'd be up for writing something on that?

Also, I was wondering what people felt the feasibility of a next issue of Tea Break would be like.. with Unison, NUT and PCS disputes collapsing (London buses too?) it leaves us with Unite NHS workers. Would we still be able to circulate something like this widely?

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Yes I can do that.

Joseph could you do you 700 words say? It could be more for the online version, up to say 1500?

The disputes collapsing is a big problem,, I'm not sure what to do about that...

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Would we still be able to circulate something like this widely?

going on past experience, where we were constantly wrongfooted by union manouverings, i reckon we should produce it anyway if we feel there's a need, can always be published online as a pdf for people to distro if they can. this is not to go against the decision to keep it irregular, it's a response to the recession/crisis.

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I know Joseph K was keen on writing something about the financial crisis and how it will affect workers.

was thinking about this today, thought the main article would be a bit ahistorical without some context, so suggest a main text/insert box kinda thingy. very provisional plan, please criticise ruthlessly:

Main article:
the recession is here: what does it mean for us? from financial crisis (rooted in the real economy, see box), back to the 'real economy.' for profits to be restored, wages will be attacked; some will lose their incomes altogether through unemployment (predictions of 2.5-3m+ in 2010), others will face wage cuts (the vote for wage cuts example). bankruptcies and repossessions will increase. we will face austerity, the bosses are taking collective action to bail out the system and shift the costs onto us; we need to do the same to make sure we aren't made to pay for their crisis.

box: In a nutshell... (kept *very* brief)
Post-war productivity deals. Everyone's a winner? Breaks down with the victorious struggles of the late 60s/early 70s and the post-war boom running its course. GDP growth halves (Kliman). Counter-attack: Reagan/Thatcher and the air traffic controllers/miners; class war plain and simple; they won. The twist: keeping down wages boosted profits in the short term, but hit consumer spending, and therefore economic growth. The 'fix' was to pump extra credit into the economy, creating a bubble of spending power that was always going to burst...

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Joseph K - perhaps in box also mention how industry was moved to cheaper '3rd World' to escape class struggle here, which then supplied cheap goods to facilitate credit boom (assuming you think that's true). Which then caused 3rd World proletarianisation and class struggle, which then begins to push wages up there (as in China) etc...

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good point, the international(ist) angle is important - goes hand-in-hand with the thatcher/reagan counter-revolution bit, manufacturing didn't dissappear altogether.

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Yes, all good.

You could expand the stuff in the box for an online version, and include the URL "for more information"

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i guess the best idea is to write the 1500 words version and let someone else mercilessly chop it down. i just wrote a blog of 1200 words self-induglent wank so verbiage shouldn't be a problem tongue

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Yeah I can help try to cut you down bigmouth.

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Distroing this kind of stuff is easy. You could distro a thousand copies in an hour or two outside a train station - this is what the AF in Manchester does all the time. If this is a general issue about economic crisis and the affects on working class living standards then it would be much easier to distro than dispute specific stuff at pickets and strike rallies.

Suggestions look good.

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It is also about targeting distribution though. I would say a thousand given out on picket lines is a lot more valuable than 1000 given out at a train station.

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What picket lines though if it isnt a strike oriented bulletin?

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It was just a general point. Workplaces are better than Transport hubs for example. I am not saying you shouldn't do train stations. Just that it is good to try to focus things as much as possible.

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Yeah, because all those commuters going to work are atomised individuals, whilst when at there workplace they are workers. roll eyes tongue The real advantage of targetting workplaces is that folks are more likely to discuss it others if they see each other reading it, or you appear mental enough when handing it out that this provokes tea time chatter. groucho

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Jason, I would agree with Devrim that workers on a picket line are more likely to be receptive to class struggle propaganda than workers in general (and of course all the bosses, stockbrokers etc who take the train). However in this case, there aren't any picket lines, and the content is being pitched somewhat more generally, so i think Django's train station suggestion is a goer.

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If there was a Thousand strong picket line, I think that we would be producing for that situation. But even then there is value in addressing other workers not directly involved, don't you think? And was responding to this

Devrim wrote:
Workplaces are better than Transport hubs for example.

I am not sure how targetting workplaces is more focussed unless what you are producing is directly aim at this industry (i.e. Building Worker') which would not be the case with an issue of Tea Break on the current crisis, now would it? wall

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Jason Cortez wrote:
even then there is value in addressing other workers not directly involved, don't you think?

fair point. in other news, i'm hoping to have a draft of my article by the end of this week.

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Targetting train stations is a bit too random though. In the absence of large picket line perhaps picking areas you live in and distributing them door to door might be a better option.

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i dunno, i don't read any of the random crap that gets shoved through my letterbox, but i'll read pretty much any crap that comes to hand on the morning commute.