Retail & student.
What industry do you work in?
education
[student but with research funding]
in terms of sectors, maybe it is worth thinking about not necessarily the job or site of work per se, but more the issues that unite different jobs
e.g.
don't put industrial cleaners and industrial workers together, put them with domestic cleaners.
or is that a 'like, DUH!' type of suggestion...?
Yeah this is a good idea - especially if you update the list. We should do that with the Union thread as well.
If people are broken up well by industry into just a few categories I think it might be worth having "industrial threads" - like my "what's going on in your work" thread.
John.:
Public service - Education
Public service - Local government
Lazy Riser wrote:
Jack wrote:
Political ConsultancyJohn. wrote:
That's not an industryI know what Jack does, and it is. In fact, Jack might come in very handy one day.
If that constitutes a whole "industry" in itself then JDMF will need about 200,000 categories in his original post. Not very useful for anyone!
Hi
Ho ho. That's fair enough, but soon all jobs will be either self employed, public sector or sales and marketing.
How about 3 sections for the public sector...
Local Government (Planning, Highways, Museums, Libraries and other job creation schemes)
Education, Health, Pensions, Benefits and other soft-cops.
Regeneration, Quangos and other freeloaders.
Love
LR
martinh wrote:
IT(my shortest post ever!)
would have been without gloating about the shortness of the post 
ok, so IT industry, or profession? We are after industries here, should IT be in communications, or not?
Its actually quite difficult to categorise industries like this 
ftony wrote:
don't put industrial cleaners and industrial workers together, put them with domestic cleaners.
not sure if i understood your suggestion, but basically we should not care what the actual trade is what you do, but rather the industry what you work in, industrial unionism rather than craft unionism 
JDMF wrote:
martinh wrote:
IT(my shortest post ever!)
would have been without gloating about the shortness of the post
ok, so IT industry, or profession? We are after industries here, should IT be in communications, or not?
Its actually quite difficult to categorise industries like this
Well, I do the same job as I used to when I worked for the council, pretty much. My T&Cs are more or less what they are for council workers, the people I work with have wildly different Ts&Cs and the employer is anti-collective bargaining and refuses to deal with the union.
The people at the end of our open-plan office are doing work for the NHS. Round the corner they do work for Tescos/NTL. One of my colleagues has done some for Transport for London. Upstairs there is TeleWest and Reuters.
While some people can be pigeonholed into other sectors (I know lots of people who do IT for universities, some are even anarchists ) that's usually from the nature of their employer. IT is a service industry in the same way as transport is - if you work for TNT delivering all sorts of things you're in transport, if you work for Tescos driving their lorries, you're in retail.
There are no easy divisions - and in some senses it depends on who your employer is.
Regards,
Martin
As divisions go, I think it's best to go with the overall sector, so with martin it would be public sector (privatised/contracted)
Then other sectors could be
* Voluntary/3rd sector
* Agriculture/manufacturing
* Retail
* Leisure/entertainment
* Transport
* Media/Communication
Any more could be added/agglomerated as necessary. Probably best not to have any more categories than that...
Allright folks, I think the higher education strike on tuesday gave some indication of what we (as in libcom community and the networks attached to it via individual members and groups) could potentially achieve. I believe we only scratched the surface and didn't get much done, but we could have done miles better in so many ways. I for one was quite encouraged by the potential.
So to get in idea of the breakdown, we should first have a list of industries, for instance Education, Retail etc and then list people in those industries.
Do you think this would be a worthwhile exercise?
So for instance, we could have:
Education
JDMF
Wetheyouth
Retail
Wetheyouth
and so on. I can update the list and we could see if there are any potential areas for co-operation and organising.
Thoughs?
UPDATED LIST:
Communications (incl, IT, media)
martinh
saii
Education
ftony
JDMF
John.
ticking_fool
xConorx
catch
Education - students
BB
dara
Sorry.
Tumbleweed
Wetheyouth
Public service (incl, local goverment, NHS)
John. - local gov
RPG - NHS
Tumbleweed - care work
Retail
BB
cantdocartwheels
dara
Wetheyouth
Third sector (incl. voluntary, charity, community and non-profit making organisations)
Steve
the button
Unemployed
Lazy Riser