What industry do you work in?
Mar 9 2006 12:25
Allright folks, I think the higher education strike on tuesday gave some indication of what we (as in libcom community and the networks attached to it via individual members and groups) could potentially achieve. I believe we only scratched the surface and didn't get much done, but we could have done miles better in so many ways. I for one was quite encouraged by the potential.
So to get in idea of the breakdown, we should first have a list of industries, for instance Education, Retail etc and then list people in those industries.
Do you think this would be a worthwhile exercise?
So for instance, we could have:
Education
JDMF
Wetheyouth
Retail
Wetheyouth
and so on. I can update the list and we could see if there are any potential areas for co-operation and organising.
Thoughs?
UPDATED LIST:
Communications (incl, IT, media)
martinh
saii
Education
ftony
JDMF
John.
ticking_fool
xConorx
catch
Education - students
BB
dara
Sorry.
Tumbleweed
Wetheyouth
Public service (incl, local goverment, NHS)
John. - local gov
RPG - NHS
Tumbleweed - care work
Retail
BB
cantdocartwheels
dara
Wetheyouth
Third sector (incl. voluntary, charity, community and non-profit making organisations)
Steve
the button
Unemployed
Lazy Riser
Mar 9 2006 12:36
#2
IT
(my shortest post ever!)
Mar 9 2006 12:41
#3
"Third Sector"
This covers voluntary, charity, community and non-profit making organisations.
Mar 9 2006 12:49
#4
education
[student but with research funding]
in terms of sectors, maybe it is worth thinking about not necessarily the job or site of work per se, but more the issues that unite different jobs
e.g.
don't put industrial cleaners and industrial workers together, put them with domestic cleaners.
or is that a 'like, DUH!' type of suggestion...?
Mar 9 2006 12:53
#5
Yeah this is a good idea - especially if you update the list. We should do that with the Union thread as well.
If people are broken up well by industry into just a few categories I think it might be worth having "industrial threads" - like my "what's going on in your work" thread.
John.:
Public service - Education
Public service - Local government
Mar 9 2006 12:57
#6
Political Consultancy. 8)
Mar 9 2006 13:10
#7
Steve wrote:
"Third Sector"This covers voluntary, charity, community and non-profit making organisations.
Me too.
Mar 9 2006 13:16
#8
Good idea....
Public sector - NHS
Mar 9 2006 13:26
#9
Jack wrote:
Political Consultancy. 8)
That's not an industry. What would that be... Public service - outsourced support or something?
Mar 9 2006 13:30
#10
It might as well be, there's so much privatised outsourced shit in the sector.
Altho "Public Sector - Privatised" might be the most apt description. 
Mar 9 2006 13:42
#11
student and part-time supervisor at a climbing wall. not sure what sector that falls under. maybe sports & fitness
Mar 9 2006 13:44
#12
dara wrote:
maybe sports & fitness
Probably too narrow - Leisure/entertainment.
Mar 9 2006 13:57
#13
Me - Media
Tumbleweed - Care/student/social work
Sorry - Student/history
Mar 9 2006 14:27
#14
Retail/service: I clean council offices and a department store. Fingers crossed i shall be making a ''career'' move to service/health very soon.
Mar 9 2006 15:30
#15
I work in the little-known "fail uni and get a shit job with the public" sector.
Mar 9 2006 15:33
#16
Education - wannabe teacher
dunno how long for though, might be a research student next year??
Mar 9 2006 15:33
#17
lucy_parsons wrote:
I work in the little-known "fail uni and get a shit job with the public" sector.
I think that one's probably more common than you might think 
I guess this only applies to people in the UK? Imperialists 
Mar 9 2006 15:56
#18
Education: part time HE tutor, although looking at recruitment for next year and given that all the research leave for full timers in advance of the 2008 RAE is drying up, I suspect I won't be doing it for that much longer...
Mar 9 2006 16:35
#19
Hi
Unemployed.
Love
LR
Mar 9 2006 16:39
#20
Hi
Jack wrote:
Political Consultancy
John. wrote:
That's not an industry
I know what Jack does, and it is. In fact, Jack might come in very handy one day.
Love
LR
Mar 9 2006 16:42
#21
Lazy Riser wrote:
Jack wrote:
Political ConsultancyJohn. wrote:
That's not an industryI know what Jack does, and it is. In fact, Jack might come in very handy one day.
If that constitutes a whole "industry" in itself then JDMF will need about 200,000 categories in his original post. Not very useful for anyone!
Mar 9 2006 17:02
#22
Hi
Ho ho. That's fair enough, but soon all jobs will be either self employed, public sector or sales and marketing.
How about 3 sections for the public sector...
Local Government (Planning, Highways, Museums, Libraries and other job creation schemes)
Education, Health, Pensions, Benefits and other soft-cops.
Regeneration, Quangos and other freeloaders.
Love
LR
Mar 9 2006 19:11
#23
martinh wrote:
IT(my shortest post ever!)
would have been without gloating about the shortness of the post
ok, so IT industry, or profession? We are after industries here, should IT be in communications, or not?
Its actually quite difficult to categorise industries like this 
Mar 9 2006 19:14
#24
ftony wrote:
don't put industrial cleaners and industrial workers together, put them with domestic cleaners.
not sure if i understood your suggestion, but basically we should not care what the actual trade is what you do, but rather the industry what you work in, industrial unionism rather than craft unionism 
Mar 9 2006 19:21
#25
OK, list updated in the first post.
Check it out if the categories of industries make any sense - easier to change now before we have more people in the list.
Couldn't find a home for lucy_parsons and jack though... Would you like to be even more vague
Mar 9 2006 19:31
#26
Hi
Quote:
Third sector
I reckon Jack's Third Sector. What a woolly bleeding heart he is.
Love
LR
Mar 9 2006 19:40
#27
You can add me to the Education list (University)
Mar 9 2006 20:07
#28
JDMF wrote:
martinh wrote:
IT(my shortest post ever!)
would have been without gloating about the shortness of the post
ok, so IT industry, or profession? We are after industries here, should IT be in communications, or not?
Its actually quite difficult to categorise industries like this
Well, I do the same job as I used to when I worked for the council, pretty much. My T&Cs are more or less what they are for council workers, the people I work with have wildly different Ts&Cs and the employer is anti-collective bargaining and refuses to deal with the union.
The people at the end of our open-plan office are doing work for the NHS. Round the corner they do work for Tescos/NTL. One of my colleagues has done some for Transport for London. Upstairs there is TeleWest and Reuters.
While some people can be pigeonholed into other sectors (I know lots of people who do IT for universities, some are even anarchists ) that's usually from the nature of their employer. IT is a service industry in the same way as transport is - if you work for TNT delivering all sorts of things you're in transport, if you work for Tescos driving their lorries, you're in retail.
There are no easy divisions - and in some senses it depends on who your employer is.
Regards,
Martin
Mar 9 2006 20:18
#29
Hi
This is true. John.'s myriad "Butcher", "Baker", "Candlestick maker" are the easiest divisions, trouble is there's as many of them as posters.
Love
LR
Mar 9 2006 20:30
#30
As divisions go, I think it's best to go with the overall sector, so with martin it would be public sector (privatised/contracted)
Then other sectors could be
* Voluntary/3rd sector
* Agriculture/manufacturing
* Retail
* Leisure/entertainment
* Transport
* Media/Communication
Any more could be added/agglomerated as necessary. Probably best not to have any more categories than that...
Retail & student.