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What do you say if you're a steward of one of these unions, what do you say to your fellow workers, what would your position be?

So, I should say that I'm not a steward. That's partly because I don't want to be in a legal and policy position to ever be obligated to tell anyone to come in during a strike. However, I am in a workplace with multiple unions. When we have strikes, the first thing I do is begin talking to non-union workers and workers in other unions about not crossing picket lines. I always to try to propose collective ways not to come into work (all coming to the picket line together, for example, and calling in one after another). And, I've had success. And have taken shit from my union and management for it.

That said, I've recruited workers to join a striking union on the grounds that they want to strike but want legal cover. This isn't ideal, but if someone is joining a union so they feel they can strike, I'd rather have that situation than them coming into work.

On a related note, I was speaking to the PGCE student teachers at my school about not coming in on the last strike and was having success. Until, of course, the NUT sent them all letters telling them to come in angry

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Apr 9 2012 22:02

Right quick as it's me B-day and going to eat w/ me kids, partner, cousin.

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baboon ---On the issue of the struggle of Unilever's workers to defend their pension conditions: three unions involved - all seemingly in a dance to undermine the workers' strength, dividing the workers into three opposing facets. What do you say if you're a steward of one of these unions, what do you say to your fellow workers, what would your position be? I'd like to hear more responses because this is an eminently practical question (and it also applies if you were a union or non-union individual in this workplace).

Well, I'm not working for Unilever and don't know the on-the-ground situ. So my comment will be broad and general and really quick today.

There's the assumption that "the steward" would not have principles and would not be engaged in a fight to a) organize cross union cooperation and b) accept what is being bargained for.

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baboon ---Syndicalist has a go but I have to disagree with his view, as far as I understand it, that union bureaucrats want parrots for stewards. It's one of the strengths of the union apparatus for the bourgeoisie that it's so malleable and elastic.....I always found that the hierarchy - that I believe is generally aware of its role as a shop floor policeman - would favour militant, argumentative individuals coming in as stewards because this gives the whole structure its continuing credibility and such individuals could be groomed for higher things or remain constraiined in the rules and legality of the apparatus or act as examples for union recruitment and credibility but on a short leash.

I actually agree and disagree here. But I think B's point about some unions wanting to have miliatnst on short leashes is true and fair enough. And I would say that some unions engage in a sort of controlled rank-and-filism and controlled militrancy. I fnd this mainly with those unions which consider themselves part of the Left.

Where I would disagree is with those unions which make no bones about being straight out conservatve and hierarchical. Most stewards are hand picked and are parrots.

As I've said before, I am not opposed to there being times when getting elected to office
is bad. It's bad when you have no autonomy. I dunno, I'd rather quit a steward position, after doing my best to wage the good fight, then allow some company suck-ass to help run the stacked deck. No guarantees with anything, and this is true with the steward position as well.

Gots to shove off.

Fast edit: If I may, anyone who's been on the workfloor prolly has many stories about the good steward who knew how to "wink and nod" with members and play dumb with the boss.

Outtahere......

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Apr 9 2012 21:57
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I think B's point about some unions wanting to have miliatnst on short leashes is true and fair enough. And I would say that some unions engage in a sort of controlled rank-and-filism and controlled militrancy. I fnd this mainly with those unions which consider themselves part of the Left.

I just want to up this part of S's post.

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Apr 9 2012 22:02

I would agree with baboon and disagree with syndicalists here. I wouldn't say that here stewards are parrots, quite the opposite, they are usually the most militant workers. As baboon says, militants as stewards are often the best at recruiting members and looking to workers like the union is fighting for them.

There is probably a difference with the US here, because stewards are just workers on the shopfloor, acting as a rep in their own time. They are nominated by members in their shop (nominally there will be elections, but union elections are almost never contested as there is always a shortage of volunteers rather than a surplus).

In terms of what you would do in the example baboon raises of Unilever, well basically I agree with chilli.

I mean I totally support his position of not being a union rep, which is ideological the the position I support revolutionaries taking.

However, in my role as a union rep what I do in these circumstances is call joint meetings in advance of any action, trying to get people to stick together, trying to get people not to cross each other's picket lines. And as chilli says, despite any reassurances often the best way to get people to join the strike is to recruit them to the union. In the run-up to our 2008 pay strike I organised the recruitment of over 100 members to the union. Including most of the GMB members in the sections (the GMB was not taking strike action, and so effectively supporting mass scabbing). Of course some unions, however, like the NUT cover different grades, so you can't recruit them, so as much as possible you have to just ask them informally not cross your lines, and argue for people not cross theirs when they take their action.

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Apr 9 2012 22:10

Ok, fast.... Steve....I suspect this is th eproblem with making generalizations. But not every stewrad that I've met (here in the US) has been militant. And not every stewrad has been a conservative parrot. But I can say from my own experiances (dated as they are), shop stewards in conservative unions have not always been either the sharpest or militant. Perhaps if one is elected, rather then appointed, chances for a better steward are greater.

Anyway, I think if we just focus on the position of steward, we'll prolly end with the position of agreeing to disagree.

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Apr 10 2012 11:05
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Thanks Steve for starting a thread on its own. One of the things that has troubled me about the various Forums that exist, the lack of experiance sharing. I think the one exception to this has been some of the IWW stuff. But, in the main, nearlly all the threads we read tend to place emphasis on how we see ideology or some really good organizational concepts, but not so much the cause and effects of practice. And, I must admit, this is not something new or generalized to today. Even comrades of my generation didn't do much of a good job doing this sort of exchange either.

kind of why i'm not posting more on this thread! since i've got very very little experience, posts that i've drafted up have turned into the kind of organisational concepts you describe, rather than sharing actual practice which is far more useful.

i'm following and reading this thread though, and want to see it continue...

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Steve: There is probably a difference with the US here, because stewards are just workers on the shopfloor, acting as a rep in their own time. They are nominated by members in their shop (nominally there will be elections, ......

Point of clarification: How do UK stewards get into office, if different from above?

BTW, in US unions, not every steward is elected. And in some workplaces there are actual contested elections for steward positions.

Chili (and this is asked in a most comradely manner), does Solfed have a position against members being elected to stewards positions? I recall years ago, the DAM did not nor do I recall early Solfed. But I'm strictky going from memory here.

Quite interesting conversation. I hope others are willing to share experiances. Back to the slave grind....

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Apr 10 2012 14:40

Also stewards in US unions are often just workers on the floor acting on their own time. Practices on this vary quite a bit (time off, other benefits for being a steward etc).

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Apr 10 2012 14:55

Syndicalist, union rules differ that normally you need to be nominated by a couple of members in your shop. If two people stand in one shop, they can often job share the role. But if more than that stand then there would have to be an election. (N.b. at my work which has 10,000 people at it, there has not been an election in years, as there are about three times as many stewards vacancies as there are stewards)

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May 3 2012 13:11

I figured I bump this, to see if there's any additional interest in this sort of conversation.

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May 3 2012 14:14

Good bump. I remember earlier in the thread someone asked about the committee model proposed by SolFed. This is from an article due out in the next Black Flag:

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We don't claim to have all the answers and, in any case, mass struggle always throws up its own forms of self-organisation. However, we are consciously trying to build a self-organised workers movement. We do this through the creation of independent 'workplace committees' made up of militant workers who seek to identify winnable workplace grievances and tackle them through direct action. By building on small victories, we grow our committee, and take on larger grievances. These committees link through industrial networks to share tactics, develop strategy, and eventually begin taking on industry-wide issues.

The other advantage to this committee model is that it gives us, as revolutionaries, a way to reach out to and organise along our non-radical workmates. If folks join SF in the process, great! Fundamentally, however, it is this struggle—based in the workplace and around material conditions—politicises workers and provides us, as radicals, the space to begin talking about capitalism and class struggle.

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May 4 2012 00:49

Thanks Chili. What's the title of the article or what's it about?

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May 4 2012 07:05

Better than we know ourselves: a ruling class view of the trade unions.

I'll post it up in the library once the next Black Flag comes out.

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May 4 2012 13:26

Better than we know ourselves: a ruling class view of the trade unions Ain't dat largely the truth .

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May 4 2012 16:13

It's based on the trade union section from this book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-be-Minister-Gerald-Kaufman/dp/0571190804

When How To Be A Minister was first published in 1980, it received rave reviews. When it was out of print, copies became as prized as gold-dust and were known to disappear from the House of Commons Library. Recommended to incoming ministers in the Thatcher and Major governments by the Cabinet Office, it is also used as a primer by overseas governments. Gerald Kaufman, former Minister and Shadow Cabinet member, brought the book up-to-date in this revised edition. It remains the most authoritative guide to the processes of government ever published...

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Chili, comrades....the oft times truism is that bosses have a better sense of how "stiff" or "soft" "their" workers will wage a fight.

In another thread, I mentioned how we thought we had a tight shop, could work the plant backwards....then the boss locked the shop out and the workers just collapsed. Obviopusly the boss knew something we didn't.

Anyway, be interested in seeing the BF article.

BTW, I trust you will address how the "independent workers committee" deals with going up against the boss
and, in unionized settings, the established union structure.

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May 5 2012 18:54

I mean, it's independent of the any recognised trade union but, at least in my workplace, when issues come up we make judgement call at which level we want to involve the union, if at all. We also stress, as you can imagine, that sometimes organised workers need to fight the union as much as the boss. In fact, I gave a presentation to a joint union meeting just last week and much of the conversation afterwards centred around just how shit the unions are and how, first and foremost, how we need to support each on the shopfloor.

All that said, I should stress that in the forthcoming article the workplace committee model is mentioned only in passing, pretty just the bit I've already quoted.

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when issues come up we make judgement call at which level we want to involve the union, if at all

I think the qualifier is important. Well, in the sense that it often times reflects the on-the-ground reality for.

I guess, I've always been one who never believed that everything fits into "neat" little boxes. That situation's often times demand of us what tactics to employ, how hard and fast each principle in my organization's program is rigidly adhered to and so forth.

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May 16 2012 00:53

Discussion closed? No one is interested in this?
Perhaps this just isn't something of value outside of ones group or branch.

Okee-dokie.

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edit: overly-long post will come back and edit with fresh eyes. Repeated myself but forgot to say, I'm struggling to find anyone who wants to get together as a team/ shop/ workers committee (excluding people I meet at union meetings from other shops), I feel without this I won't be able to do much.

I'm a shop steward. I agree that mainstream unions do create problems for workers, that they dilute and divert the struggle and confound and betray it, and that we should be critical of some of the things they do and their broad social role. I also think Unions present real opportunities to make our lives as workers slightly better now, to get our own back on the bosses from time to time, help us to get away with slacking or other anti-work pro-social things from time to time and they present opportunities to build working class self organisation skills. It presents opportunities to get people involved in struggles to win small victories (or loose and be sold out by union leadership with shitty concessions). Engaging in class struggle, even if at a reformist level, can elevate class consciousness and solidarity. I think I would not be able to do as much stuff to try and make work more bearable and open up discussions where I can share my politics if i weren't a steward. If I ever have to do something clearly anti-worker I will resign as a steward and make it known why (if sensible to do so).

I use my role to open up conversations about politics and work issues where I give a few of ideas from an anarchist perspective (subtly) and encourage people to stand up for themselves and each other if the bosses/ government try to screw us over (more than usual). Workplace anarchist stuff is still pretty new to me. So far I have had some promising conversations and have just been trying to get people help via the union if they might need it (partly because I think it might help their politics develop, mainly because I want to help however I can when management gives them shit). I try to:

- help with individual problems my workmates are having (even if it ain't always going to advance the struggle, it still beats work) trying to spot potential for collective action

- get a better appreciation of what people's problems at work are and assess and try and gently nudge their willingness to take action to improve their lives make work more bearable or resist worse pay/conditions by giving the bosses shit or using their own rule books against them (if collective action just isn't going to happen and someone is facing a disciplinary has an individual grievance or whatever)

- tell my workmates about all the shitty stuff I know about what the government has planned for public sector workers- and my own local authority's efforts

- explain what the union is doing, talk about what might happen if the union looses or sells us out and what we might be able to do to resist with or without the union, and what I think we were capable of doing with or without the union

- tell my workmates what I think about how work would be much better if it wasn't managed by a hierarchy but by workers and the local community directly (on few occasions)

and so on. I am new to it, and so far I've only got really full-on ranty political with a couple of people in my team who I know well and trust. When there has been a group discussion about work or economics or the government I have made tentative but politically honest little statements to convey the idea I think we are in a class-based conflict, we can't put any faith in the political parties and we need to fight back together as workers (often avoiding misunderstood buzzwords like communist and anarchist though).

I hope to get more of my workmates out on strike when there next is one, but most people I've spoken to who didn't strike last time (N30) still seem reluctant to do so next time. Only 1 non-union member didn't cross the picket in my team (not because of me) only one person joined the union in order to join the strike. My team is shamefully lacking in solidarity though, it's very socially fragmented. I'm not sure if this is true for my whole shop yet.

Having the chance to go on union training and speak
to other workplace militants who want to get other people involved in struggles is also good. Its good to talk to union militants and reps about the limits of unions as they are and the potential of grassroots organising (against the established union rulebook).

So I feel like right now the steward thing is best for me in my workplace, its fun and its useful to me and my workmates as far as I can see. If my workplace was different I would probably follow the SolFed workplace organiser model more closely. As I said, if I had to do anything I felt in direct conflict with my political views I would cease to be a steward, I do know sometimes it diverts my energies but not to the extent it outweighs the opportunities it brings up. Thinking about it I might join SolFed to talk about this stuff more... but I talk about it a lot already so maybe not

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May 18 2012 01:39

I too think this is a great thread, and hopefully people can contribute their experiences. I thought I'd share my own work situation, in the hope others may have advice/experience to share.

I work in a small manufacturing plant in Christchurch, New Zealand. There's probably 12 or so on the payroll — 3 full timers, and the rest part timers. The make-up is predominately working class women who are skilled machinists, mothers, and have been with the company a long time. We work directly with the boss, and the vibe is very paternalistic — "we're all a family" sort of thing.

Due to the size and the nature of the environment, its tricky to organise. My co-workers overwhelmingly think the boss is good (as far as bosses go), despite being on shite wages or not having contracts. They like the flexibility (the boss is happy for people to come and go, take leave etc). This situation is super common in NZ. I read that over 94% of workplaces in NZ have less than 30 workers.

Whenever there are issues I try to involve the entire workplace, and despite being loyal to the boss my co-workers know differences exist between us and him. For example, we joke at how many holidays the boss takes, and when there was an issue of sick pay some of the most loyal stuff shocked me by adding: "he may play nice but he knows exactly what he's doing." Apparently before my time they also staged a go-slow one summer.

Yet when I touch on the issue of contracts or wages, the response I often get is: "no contract means he can't hold us to anything either"; or "if we asked for higher wages he couldn't pay them, we'd be out of a job etc". It can be quite disheartening at times, but I hope that in examples of real conflict that the sense of us vs him may crystalise better.

I'm only there one day a week now, but I try too:

— take note of issues/grievances, and jot them down
— keep an eye on a few workers who are more outspoken and ready to challenge the boss
— use humour during smoko's to highlight the differences between the boss and us (this seems to work quite well).

Overall, I haven't committed to any major action, simply because I literally sit next to the boss when I'm there (I do a bit of web/design stuff now). And paternalism is ripe. But knowing this is a common situation, I thought small workplace organising tips would be a good thing to discuss on this thread.

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May 18 2012 12:19

In this discussion of individual workplaces many seem to lose sight or are completely oblivious to the "big issues" which have a major impact in individual workplaces and what workers and militants can do there concerning the class struggle. Such as the pace of the employer offensive, the role of Governments in intensifying its pace and inspiring private sector employers to follow suit, repressive industrial legislation which makes most industrial action let alone direct action illegal and suicidal in small and non strategic workplaces; and the critical importance of assisting workers self organisation and big actions in strategic sectors in slowing down the employer offensive in terms of preventing new waves of speed ups and staff cuts and raising workers morale generally in less strategic sectors and in particular small workplaces.
For an example of this "slowing down" the employer offensive see "Anarcho-Syndicalist Strategy for Australia, Today" in the archive section of our web site www.rebelworker.org which looks at the defeat of Govt plans for restructuring of the CityRail station network for privatisation and a new wave of speedups railways ub NSW in Sept 1999 prior to the Olympics in Sydney in 2000.
A pamphlet which throws important light on this phenomena is "Dare to be Daniel" by Wilf McCartney - which looks at the emergence of a syndicalist catering workers union in London in the years immediately prior to WWI. Despite extremely difficult circumstances involving small workplaces and casual work situations - a syndicalist union emerged using on the job tactics which won many actions. However, the rise of this union must be seen in the context of the backdrop of a massive upsurge in direct action in the transport and mining sectors which raised the morale of workers in the less strategic catering sector and so combined with syndicalist propaganda - they stuck their necks out and combined with others on this project. See "British Syndicalism 1900 to 1914" by Bob Holton for a discussion of this back drop.
This activity in strategic sectors would probably take the form of assisting militants pursue a "boring from with" approach given such sectors are likely to be highly unionised. However without massive assistance in getting their "organisational ball rolling" eg networking of militants, regular workplace workplaces, web sites, flyers etc, they won't get very far and would require syndicalist groupings "setting priorities" to get this work done - and not getting involved in every issue or struggle going on and under the sun. Despite clutching claytons "strategy documents".

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May 18 2012 14:41

Quickly....

1. Jared -- I've mostly worked in shops of under 100 workers. In the needle trades, most shops were under 50 workers, usually in the 10-30 range. In metal working, most of the big plants were closing or long gone. So most manufacturing jobs in these parts are on the small scale as well.

Sometimes in small shops, there's little conventional or "traditional" stuff you can do. You sorta gotta go with the flow of where people are at and see if there's anything that can be (in this case) informally pulled together. And sometimes, there's little we can do but win little skimashes.

I recall the time I worked in a sports fishing supply warehouse.... they had lots of cool fishing gear, but it was a mumified place to work. It was "union", but the union long ago stopped having any meaning on the shopfloor. The steward, a nice guy on a personal level, would piss in his pants at the sight of the boss. The boss would say jump, he'd say how high?
A shame, cause he really was a nice person.

Anyway, there was no way that without a really long term commitment to clandestine work in that shop might there be a possibility of maybe breaking thru. I was lucky enough to be in my 20s, no family and footloose as well. I got the F. out after a few months. But, yeah, no way that shop was going to be the scene of any class battles soon.

2. ASN -- I realize Australia and NZ are in the same neighborhood, so many there's a subliminal message there (said in good humor).

On a more serious note, the reason I figured I'd kick this sort of "limited" focus discussion off mainly is prolly two fold. First, all folks seem to talk about here on Libcom, in our organizations and so forth are big picture stuff. All of which have merits and are overall important to building a revlutionary workers movement beyond our small organizational numbers.

My long time interest has always been, how does the rubber meet the road in your own workplace? How do we take strategic and wonderful theoretical ideas and put them into practice? What is the push and shove, the contradictions, the challenges and so forth? I long ago began the process of zoning out on pontification. On neat little squares and boxes which everything is supposed to fit in. They don't. So the real front line of ideas is the practice, not the ideas themselves.
IMHO, the ideas give guideance to and suppliment the practice. They give broad frameworks, but they do not replace implementation.

So, in this respect, I figured, let me ask what are folks experiances with trying to put their ideas into action in the workplace. Afterall, even with a tight workplan and a collective policy to engage within a specific sector, company and so forth, the individual
militant has to implement, gets the shir or the rewards of their work and the rath or love of their co-workers, right?

Gots to run.

Fast edit: I should say that in the traditional industrial areas, the shops are small. A newer phenom
has been the growth (in former and/or transitioning rurual areas) to mega warehouses. See: New Jersey’s Supply Chain Pain: Warehouse and Logistics Work Under
Walmart and Other Big-Box Retailers
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http://newlabor.org/?p=424&lang=en

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May 18 2012 15:02

Yes, I would also like to stress that instead of responding to the comment of asn people should stay on topic, and asn can start a new thread if he wants to discuss that.

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On a more serious note, the reason I figured I'd kick this sort of "limited" focus discussion off mainly is prolly two fold. First, all folks seem to talk about here on Libcom, in our organizations and so forth are big picture stuff. All of which have merits and are overall important to building a revlutionary workers movement beyond our small organizational numbers.

My long time interest has always been, how does the rubber meet the road in your own workplace? How do we take strategic and wonderful theoretical ideas and put them into practice? What is the push and shove, the contradictions, the challenges and so forth? I long ago began the process of zoning out on pontification. On neat little squares and boxes which everything is supposed to fit in. They don't. So the real front line of ideas is the practice, not the ideas themselves.
IMHO, the ideas give guideance to and suppliment the practice. They give broad frameworks, but they do not replace implementation.

I agree - the thing is though, a lot of us feel uncomfortable discussing our actual organising activity so publicly, it's something which is better done within our organisations. Most of the time, workplace activity is also very mundane and non-eventful, at least from my perspective.

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May 18 2012 15:44

You don't have to talk about specifics to identify your workplace or your employer, just ballpark stuff about your general approach I think would be interesting.

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May 18 2012 16:16
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You don't have to talk about specifics to identify your workplace or your employer, just ballpark stuff about your general approach I think would be interesting.

Yes, absolutely. It's less about where you work, then how you go about your practice.

That said, I respect and understand why some folks don't are a bit hesitant. But there are ways to get around that if folks want to. Don't folks do that in their publications?

I'd figure I'd give it a try. If, for wahetever reason, folks don't/can't want to engage, I'm cool with that. But it is pretty sad that there can be lots of postings on stuff with titles about "nilist communism" or weather this marxist or that marxist was a councilist,and few postings on on-the-ground stuff.
Well, just my own feelings.

Anyway, proceed or not, figured I'd put it out.

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no1, no doubt all roads to conciousness raising and revolution are built on boring and mundane stuff....but folks can learn from that stuff too.

OK, I suspect SF's trainings are based on boring and mundane stuff: mainly winning small victories, building self-confidence working towards a big-bang practice. So, what I'm partly driving at, how has the implementation of this stuff gone on the workfloor? Has the training/theory worked in practice?

For what it's worth, I recall how all the ultras, the militants, the revolutionary anarchists would say to us: you're shit is boring.... we'll, I suspect anarcho-syndicalism is. But, then again, who have built mass organizations based on libertarian principles/practices? Obviously a different discussion and debate. But the road to the new dawn is paved with lots of boring and mundane tasks.

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May 18 2012 17:12

I just want to post a bit about my limited workplace practice.

I've always worked fairly precarious jobs, mostly in food and retail. This is why when I learned about the IWW 6 or 7 years ago I joined. Unfortunately I didn't get my first training until about 2 years ago. But since then I've been through three, plus went on a salt retreat for Unite-Here which mostly was practicing AEI since they sorta leave O and U to the staff organizers. It was still useful, and there were many revolutionary workers that were salts.

Anyway I got to echo the just building relationships stuff, getting to know your co-workers story. Most of my jobs have been at most 6 month stints before I'd be laid off or the boss was trying to shake things up and get people to quit, which really worked to be honest, until I became more conscious of such things. The relationships thing is hard though considering the length a lot of these jobs has lasted.

Well so in practice when I have taken action it mostly has been trying to form the informal workplace resistance groups that I think are good precursors or the self-organized embryo of future independent worker committees that SolFed and the IWW try to build (we use the same 101 training basically).

Building these committees is no matter if you are in a union or just want to organize is really I think the first step. It is what the unions that do organize in the USA all take as the first step, the issue I think that is most important is about their autonomy. In the IWW this has translated to the "union committee" often being separate from the IWW as a whole. I do think asking folks to take out a card does give more ownership over the struggle over time and helps folks become more identified with longterm struggle as an anti-capitalist minority, but I still see value in having "open" worker committees, especially as the trend is towards open shops and no official collective bargaining (i.e. Wisconsin all unions are "minority" unions now, have to get people to voluntarily pay dues and take out cards). Other unions don't give the committee that much autonomy, some even have the staff pretty much dictate or get rubber stamped approval for their ideas and strategies within the committee, making the committee more a vehicle for them winning a contract and getting more dues money, and not a vehicle for direct workers struggle by the workers for the workers.

Okay so a lot of that was more abstract but it's what I've noticed in my work in IWW and trying to become a salt with Unite-Here and then backing out before I got into a shop, it just wasn't for me.

So again really my practice was mostly identifying leaders and getting them to take small actions about grievances on the shop floor. Like one night at a Chicken Wings fast food joint electric current was going through all the water when we were mopping the floors and when any of us touched equipment we got shocked. Well once I realized this was happening, cause a worker got me to touch stuff and I got hella shocked, our little workplace resistance group all did a march on the boss to his backroom where he was sleeping, with his fucking cat (gross), and knocked on his door until he came out and fixed things. That type of stuff.

Oh and he went OB. Which is probably great for the workers who are now working there (it went under new management) cause he was a really shitty boss.

EDIT:

Also just want to chime in about sorta the typical left communist thing I hear a lot of calling for meetings of all workers or assemblies, that lead to strike committees, that could lead to workers councils, etc Well I have often heard also from some left communists about things called struggle groups or struggle committees, would these be like the independent worker committees SolFed and IWW (US) speak of? Mainly I say this, because as others have probably said elsewhere we've had really shit luck starting off with mass meetings in struggles at workplaces. It seems to me the first thing to do as a communist/radical minority is try to get informal workplace groups to become more over struggle groups/committees that eventually once they have more power on the job could potentially if it made strategic sense call for mass assemblies (regardless of union affiliation or sectors). If then through lots of struggle you got to the point that that was fairly regular I could see strike committees and if campaigns extended geographically workers councils or whatever. But for now it seems to me setting up these struggle groups is the most important first step for organizing.

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May 20 2012 09:52

Good post Sab, what's OB?

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Jun 16 2012 05:34
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Good bump. I remember earlier in the thread someone asked about the committee model proposed by SolFed. This is from an article due out in the next Black Flag:
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We don't claim to have all the answers and, in any case, mass struggle always throws up its own forms of self-organisation. However, we are consciously trying to build a self-organised workers movement. We do this through the creation of independent 'workplace committees' made up of militant workers who seek to identify winnable workplace grievances and tackle them through direct action. By building on small victories, we grow our committee, and take on larger grievances. These committees link through industrial networks to share tactics, develop strategy, and eventually begin taking on industry-wide issues.

The other advantage to this committee model is that it gives us, as revolutionaries, a way to reach out to and organise along our non-radical workmates. If folks join SF in the process, great! Fundamentally, however, it is this struggle—based in the workplace and around material conditions—politicises workers and provides us, as radicals, the space to begin talking about capitalism and class struggle.

So an interesting thing about this, is these committees are independent from SolFed there seems to be a lot of emphasis on that, and when I am feeling more ultra-left I'd say I agree, (edit: it seems like I did above). What I do know though is that I've heard on and off around Recomposition folks is that they think we really should instead be trying to recruit people to the IWW, and it provides longer term commitment. Maybe that is actually the same additude that SolFed has, that ideally you want folks to join then revolutionary union, but you will respect peoples autonomy at same time?