Who else does the IWW organise?

Aqua Caliente tribe spent over 3 million dollars fighting the union just in the press. They hired consultants who's full time job it was to bust the union. They interviewed tons of workers. They ran newspaper adds against the union. They ran television ads against the union.

They fired workers. Another casino actually beat up workers. One tribe made workers roleplay how they would kick the union out of their house.

They put out leaflets telling the employees it's "legal to shot union organizers if they come on your property".

And so on....

That is why we told workers to be secret.

throwhen wrote:

Aqua Caliente tribe spent over 3 million dollars fighting the union just in the press. They hired consultants who's full time job it was to bust the union. They interviewed tons of workers. They ran newspaper adds against the union. They ran television ads against the union.

They fired workers. Another casino actually beat up workers. One tribe made workers roleplay how they would kick the union out of their house.

They put out leaflets telling the employees it's "legal to shot union organizers if they come on your property".

And so on....

That is why we told workers to be secret.

Ye be fighting against the natives? That's a right bit of racist poppycock if ye ask me. The workers should string you fascist business unionists up to a tree. Bob's your uncle. Wot guv?

thugarchist wrote:

throwhen wrote:

Aqua Caliente tribe spent over 3 million dollars fighting the union just in the press. They hired consultants who's full time job it was to bust the union. They interviewed tons of workers. They ran newspaper adds against the union. They ran television ads against the union.

They fired workers. Another casino actually beat up workers. One tribe made workers roleplay how they would kick the union out of their house.

They put out leaflets telling the employees it's "legal to shot union organizers if they come on your property".

And so on....

That is why we told workers to be secret.

Ye be fighting against the natives? That's a right bit of racist poppycock if ye ask me. The workers should string you fascist business unionists up to a tree. Bob's your uncle. Wot guv?

you're a fucking retard

Bob's your uncle. Wot guv?

If duke and chuck do not stop their personal attacks (for example on mitch and tom), insults and trolling then they will be banned, yes.

Which is a shame because while I don't agree with them I think they would be good to discuss with because it's clear they know useful stuff.

Or the petty judges of the psyche.

If duke and chuck do not stop their personal attacks (for example on mitch and tom), insults and trolling then they will be banned, yes.

Which is a shame because while I don't agree with them I think they would be good to discuss with because it's clear they know useful stuff.

cos it's to do with your social role you hack bastard.

seriously i'd trust your average cop quicker than a union official, atleast the cops lay their cards on the table.

lazy worthless fucks

Revolution is work and you certainly are lazy worthless fucks

You syndicalists unions focus on coffee shops and dog grooming stands and MP's.

cos it's to do with your social role you hack bastard.

seriously i'd trust your average cop quicker than a union official, atleast the cops lay their cards on the table.

ok. so this isn't a personal attack, eh?
you think you can tell me i'm not an anarchists...?

What a bunch of fucking idiots. Lefty bullshit armchair communists who want to think their way out of capitalism, but don't want to get their fucking hands dirty in the process.

Organizing the working class is hard, and you fucks just want to criticize.

Theory means dick if you can't put it into practice. And you obviously don't want to.

You will only build a social revolution when 90% of the working class is organized, and your workplace resistance groups offer no formula or plan. You syndicalists unions focus on coffee shops and dog grooming stands and MP's. If the working class has any chance it's when we think big. When we put all of our time into when we fight like hell with workers not to be scared, lame, apathetic or weak. When we strengthen our class by strengthening the workers inside it. When we raise up their hope.

You "anarchists", "libertarians", "communists", what the fuck ever on this list. Truely just have contempt for workers, that they are stooges that will allow themselves to be conned by slick snake oil salesmen called union organizers; that they are too stupid and will just get sucked in.

Well. this is and you, all of you on this list is why anarchism has died and remained dead for the last 80 years.

Revolution is work and you certainly are lazy worthless fucks

Winning requires a certain amount of acceotance of the world the way it is.

thugarchist wrote:

Winning requires a certain amount of acceotance of the world the way it is.

why do so many leftists not want to face this? no i'm not pointing fingers at anyone here, i've seen this for decades.

The libertarian left has a collective psychosis about enjoying being the perpetual underdog.

Chuck was a member of the anarchist peace punk movement in the U.S. as lead singer for A//Political. Just thought I'd mention that.

thugarchist wrote:

Chuck was a member of the anarchist peace punk movement in the U.S. as lead singer for A//Political. Just thought I'd mention that.

all of us must confess our sins against the class.

throwhen wrote:

thugarchist wrote:

Chuck was a member of the anarchist peace punk movement in the U.S. as lead singer for A//Political. Just thought I'd mention that.

all of us must confess our sins against the class.

Did you say sins against Crass?

Chuck, thanks for clarifying re: your take on the CCU.

For the record, I _do_ see "they're not a real union" as an attack on the CCU, and since I fucking love those cats I get hot under the collar over it. Either way, for what it's worth, I'm not one to argue that the IWW is the great white hope of the working class. If that turns out to be true, cool. If not, fine. We won't know till the revolution. Either way, we're a good organization doing good work, made up of people who work for a living. I'm absolutely sure of that and if that's all we end up being then fine.