Who here is not using Linux and why?
Mar 8 2007 02:03
Hello.
I'm a newbie here; I'm not an official member of afed. However, I'm interested, and consider me a potential member for now. More importantly consider me an independant representative of the Linux community.
It seems to me that the political aspirations of afed are completely out of synch with both Micro$oft and also Apple. I simply wish to introduce some of you that are currently unaware of the appeal of Linux to it as a complete alternative. I am not being paid for this in any way; I just hate the state aided monopolies on computer software and hardware and am a Linux evangelist as a result.
Let’s look at the facts, Linux is:
-more compatible with your computer hardware 'out of the box' than M$ Vista
-much more secure in every way than M$ Vista
-much more efficient than M$ XP and still more efficient than Vista
-Easier to use than XP and Vista (According to tests carried out by the Free Software Foundation involving surveys of the general public)
-Cheaper than any M$ product, as it is completely free (free to use, and you are free to change it/redistribute it/sell it apart from one or two commercial versions)
-Better supported than M$ XP and Vista - M$ has little or no customer support in the UK for consumers, every Linux distribution I know of has support forums with people to help you with problems, often available via live chat and sometimes via skype/remote assistance)
-much better looking than XP and Vista, and also visually more customizable
-much more productive than XP and Vista - no need to reboot Linux machines after installs, industry standard applications available for pretty much every aspect of computing and IT available for free in seconds (over a broadband internet connection)
-frequently compatible with windows applications for interoperability between work and home machines (for instance)
-unlike M$, not an international terrorist organization / not massively artificially driving up the cost of home computing / not possibly the no.1 worlds largest contributor to carbon emissions (indirectly) / not going to force you to break the law in order to do ANY of the things that the product advertises itself as being able to do without further expenditure / not going to sell or leak all your information to the highest bidder / not going to waste 30% of your system resources whilst using it for entertainment by checking what you doing is OK by them / not going to come and kill you in your sleep if you don't do exactly what they tell you to! (OK so some of that stuff may be a little biased)
So all in all, you should start to use Linux.
I would urge you to give PCLinuxOS (www.pclinuxos.com) a try - a very user friendly Linux installation. If you experience any problems, and even if you don't, please feel free to use the forums.
WE NEED MORE LINUX USERS - WE THE PEOPLE HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT AVAILIBLE HERE THAT DEFEATS SO MUCH OF THE CORPORATE AGENDA AND IT’S ACTUALLY MORE FUN TO USE!
OK, thanks for your time, go ahead and ask questions about Linux in replies to this post if you like, although I am by no means a Linux expert, I just use it.
Mar 8 2007 11:18
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Jack wrote:
Yo, just for your info, the abbreviation is actually MS. $ is the symbol for a dollar, and thus does not represent the letter S.Thought I better let you know or you might look silly! :)
We were seperated at birth.
Mar 8 2007 11:47
#3
admin - edited for spelling
Mar 8 2007 11:56
#4
revol68 wrote:
because Linux is pimped by smug stupid cunts like you and secondly cos it doesn't support decent games.
that was massively neccessary. pat yourself on the back for that.
Mar 8 2007 11:56
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NB: if you double click on post it posts the same post twice. wow.
Mar 8 2007 12:25
#6
jack_spratt wrote:
Hello.I'm a newbie here; I'm not an official member of afed. However, I'm interested, and consider me a potential member for now. More importantly consider me an independant representative of the Linux community.
Do you get to wear a cool badge?
jack_spratt wrote:
It seems to me that the political aspirations of afed are completely out of synch with both Micro$oft and also Apple.
That's kind of trivial. I imagine that Afed are also completely out of synch with Red Hat and IBM, they being corporations, and AFed being class-struggle anarchists.
jack_spratt wrote:
I simply wish to introduce some of you that are currently unaware of the appeal of Linux to it as a complete alternative.
Gee, Jack, but won't I still have to buy my hardware from the capitalists?
jack_spratt wrote:
I am not being paid for this in any way;
You should be. I mean, you're creating surplus capital for companies like Red Hat, you should at least ask for some of it back.
jack_spratt wrote:
I just hate the state aided monopolies on computer software and hardware and am a Linux evangelist as a result.
You do realize that if you succeed in your evangelism, it will only mean that there will be Linux-based state-aided monopolies on computer software, which is what is already happening in places like Brazil?
jack_spratt wrote:
Let’s look at the facts, Linux is:-more compatible with your computer hardware 'out of the box' than M$ Vista
-much more secure in every way than M$ Vista
-much more efficient than M$ XP and still more efficient than Vista
-Easier to use than XP and Vista (According to tests carried out by the Free Software Foundation involving surveys of the general public)
-Cheaper than any M$ product, as it is completely free (free to use, and you are free to change it/redistribute it/sell it apart from one or two commercial versions)
-Better supported than M$ XP and Vista - M$ has little or no customer support in the UK for consumers, every Linux distribution I know of has support forums with people to help you with problems, often available via live chat and sometimes via skype/remote assistance)
-much better looking than XP and Vista, and also visually more customizable
-much more productive than XP and Vista - no need to reboot Linux machines after installs, industry standard applications available for pretty much every aspect of computing and IT available for free in seconds (over a broadband internet connection)
-frequently compatible with windows applications for interoperability between work and home machines (for instance)
Great sales pitch. What does this have to do with politics, especially libertarian-communist politics?
jack_spratt wrote:
-unlike M$, not an international terrorist organization / not massively artificially driving up the cost of home computing / not possibly the no.1 worlds largest contributor to carbon emissions (indirectly) / not going to force you to break the law in order to do ANY of the things that the product advertises itself as being able to do without further expenditure / not going to sell or leak all your information to the highest bidder / not going to waste 30% of your system resources whilst using it for entertainment by checking what you doing is OK by them / not going to come and kill you in your sleep if you don't do exactly what they tell you to! (OK so some of that stuff may be a little biased)
Oh, come now, I'm sure that some feisty programmer will add DRM compatibility to 2.8, what with all the rising corporate involvement in open-source development. Oh, the irony! But it seems that DRM isn't very profitable, after all, so it might just not come to pass. In any case, that hardly has anything to do with whether or not Linux is adopted over Vista.
jack_spratt wrote:
WE NEED MORE LINUX USERS - WE THE PEOPLE HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT AVAILIBLE HERE THAT DEFEATS SO MUCH OF THE CORPORATE AGENDA AND IT’S ACTUALLY MORE FUN TO USE!
SORRY LIBERAL PROSELITYZER, THIS IS A COMMUNIST BOARD, PEOPLE HERE DON'T BELIEVE THAT CONSUMER CHOICES WILL WEAKEN THE CORPORATIONS.
Mar 8 2007 12:56
#7
I don't even know what linux is. 
Mar 8 2007 13:12
#8
revol68 wrote:
because Linux is pimped by smug stupid cunts like you and secondly cos it doesn't support decent games.
Sorry, did I miss when this post was in libcommunity?
Mar 8 2007 13:17
#9
sorry did I miss when the post warranted anything more than contempt.
And don't play the parochial card boyo, plenty of you brits post on irish threads.
Mar 8 2007 13:20
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irish threads
Mar 8 2007 13:32
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revol68 wrote:
sorry did I miss when the post warranted anything more than contempt.
There's sarcasm, which nearly everyone on this thread has employed, and then there's contentless abuse, which is limited only to you.
Mar 8 2007 13:37
#12
catch wrote:
revol68 wrote:
sorry did I miss when the post warranted anything more than contempt.There's sarcasm, which nearly everyone on this thread has employed, and then there's contentless abuse, which is limited only to you.
there was content, i said Linux is the most stable operating system in the world! and it doesn't sound as nerdy as FreeBSD, FACT!
also i'd have been nicer except his comment about Nazism on the AF thread made him fair game.
admin, see, this is what it'll be like
Mar 8 2007 14:15
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revol68 wrote:
i said Linux is pimped by smug cunts, FACT!
i pimp linux - revol, we have yet another subject to fight about, lovely.
Mar 8 2007 14:17
#14
Do you run your vegan-themed website using linux?
Mar 8 2007 14:34
#15
the button - this site runs on linux. Actually just about any website you'll ever visit runs on *nix including some microsoft sites (hotmail for example).
I still use XP for everyday desktop stuff, but I'm never upgrading to Vista so will move everything over to either debian or ubuntu permanently probably in the next few months
Mar 8 2007 14:36
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unlike M$, not an international terrorist organization
Yeah Linux is independent cells of terrorists.
Mar 8 2007 14:50
#17
JDMF wrote:
revol68 wrote:
i said all men are mortali am a man
JDMF is mortal.
Now if only everything was as logical. 
Mar 8 2007 14:52
#18
the button wrote:
Do you run your vegan-themed website using linux?
aye of course Debian Linux - easily the best, most secure and easiest to maintain scalable web/etc server operating system out there.
but diss that server all you like, the same one also hosts www.zabalaza.net and several other fucking spot on sites
Mar 8 2007 15:38
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the button - this site runs on linux.
HHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 8 2007 15:45
#20
I didn't say I never used it, I only said I didn't know what it was.
HHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA! yourself, cultural imperialism boy.
Mar 8 2007 15:55
#21
don't diss me, gombeen. i used to dance next to colleens dressed like this:
the button wrote:
but then i turned 13.
Mar 8 2007 15:59
#22
by turned 13 you clearly mean had an exclusion order put on you!
Mar 8 2007 16:20
#23
actually i started to pay more attention to lads dressed like that...
Mar 8 2007 16:45
#24
jack_spratt wrote:
WE THE PEOPLE HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT AVAILIBLE HERE THAT DEFEATS SO MUCH OF THE CORPORATE AGENDA AND IT’S ACTUALLY MORE FUN TO USE!
More and better products for all. 
I don't even like using a mac, couldn't imagine ever using linux.
Mar 8 2007 17:44
#25
Firstly: For those of you asking what Linux is, I recommend the following article for a good overview:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
and then perhaps a visit here to see of some of the avilible options and new developments:
Secondly: Crikey! What a lot of replies, and so much flaming, resentment, personal attacks etc. etc.!
I'm sorry if I offended some of you people, I wouldn't describe myself as a "smug stupid cunt", but I suppose I could have come across as that way unintentionally.
There are some interesting issues addressed above that I am happy to respond to, and of course these are just my opinions as one single Linux user:
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jack_spratt wrote:Hello.
I'm a newbie here; I'm not an official member of afed. However, I'm interested, and consider me a potential member for now. More importantly consider me an independent representative of the Linux community.
Do you get to wear a cool badge?
jack_spratt wrote:It seems to me that the political aspirations of afed are completely out of synch with both Micro$oft and also Apple.
That's kind of trivial. I imagine that Afed are also completely out of synch with Red Hat and IBM, they being corporations, and AFed being class-struggle anarchists.
jack_spratt wrote:I simply wish to introduce some of you that are currently unaware of the appeal of Linux to it as a complete alternative.
Gee, Jack, but won't I still have to buy my hardware from the capitalists?
jack_spratt wrote:I am not being paid for this in any way;
You should be. I mean, you're creating surplus capital for companies like Red Hat, you should at least ask for some of it back.
jack_spratt wrote:I just hate the state aided monopolies on computer software and hardware and am a Linux evangelist as a result.
You do realize that if you succeed in your evangelism, it will only mean that there will be Linux-based state-aided monopolies on computer software, which is what is already happening in places like Brazil?
jack_spratt wrote:Let’s look at the facts, Linux is:
-more compatible with your computer hardware 'out of the box' than M$ Vista
-much more secure in every way than M$ Vista
-much more efficient than M$ XP and still more efficient than Vista
-Easier to use than XP and Vista (According to tests carried out by the Free Software Foundation involving surveys of the general public)
-Cheaper than any M$ product, as it is completely free (free to use, and you are free to change it/redistribute it/sell it apart from one or two commercial versions)
-Better supported than M$ XP and Vista - M$ has little or no customer support in the UK for consumers, every Linux distribution I know of has support forums with people to help you with problems, often available via live chat and sometimes via skype/remote assistance)
-much better looking than XP and Vista, and also visually more customizable
-much more productive than XP and Vista - no need to reboot Linux machines after installs, industry standard applications available for pretty much every aspect of computing and IT available for free in seconds (over a broadband internet connection)
-frequently compatible with windows applications for interoperability between work and home machines (for instance)Great sales pitch. What does this have to do with politics, especially libertarian-communist politics?
jack_spratt wrote:-unlike M$, not an international terrorist organization / not massively artificially driving up the cost of home computing / not possibly the no.1 worlds largest contributor to carbon emissions (indirectly) / not going to force you to break the law in order to do ANY of the things that the product advertises itself as being able to do without further expenditure / not going to sell or leak all your information to the highest bidder / not going to waste 30% of your system resources whilst using it for entertainment by checking what you doing is OK by them / not going to come and kill you in your sleep if you don't do exactly what they tell you to! (OK so some of that stuff may be a little biased)
Oh, come now, I'm sure that some feisty programmer will add DRM compatibility to 2.8, what with all the rising corporate involvement in open-source development. Oh, the irony! But it seems that DRM isn't very profitable, after all, so it might just not come to pass. In any case, that hardly has anything to do with whether or not Linux is adopted over Vista.
jack_spratt wrote:WE NEED MORE LINUX USERS - WE THE PEOPLE HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT AVAILIBLE HERE THAT DEFEATS SO MUCH OF THE CORPORATE AGENDA AND IT’S ACTUALLY MORE FUN TO USE!
SORRY LIBERAL PROSELITYZER, THIS IS A COMMUNIST BOARD, PEOPLE HERE DON'T BELIEVE THAT CONSUMER CHOICES WILL WEAKEN THE CORPORATIONS.
1.I'm not sure what you mean about the cool badge, I would be happy to wear a badge saying that I'm a Linux user, but if you mean to imply that my use of Linux is pointless and solely for its own sake, then I clearly won't agree with that.
2. I made no reference to Red Hat or IBM, I have as much contempt as any for those companies, I do not endorse them and didn't imply that in my post. I was advocating the use of PCLinuxOS which is developed entirely by volunteers whose only source of income for the project is via donations and are completely unassociated with the above two companies that you mentioned as far as I know. PCLinuxOS is associated with some OEM resellers, all of which are very small and personally I have no problem with that situation.
3. Yes Judas, you will still have to buy hardware from capitalists to run PCLinuxOS most likely (though you are encouraged to use second hand or 'dumped' systems most of which will be more than capable of running PCLinuxOS as well as any newer machine). Again, I made no comment about hardware purchase, I did no endorse the current system of hardware manufacture or distribution - I don't see how you criticism is aimed at anything that I said. I assume that anarchists have not completely banned the use of computers, and so you shall need software to run on them. If I have misunderstood please clarify and I shall endeavor to give a better response.
4. I don't see how I am making any money for red hat whatsoever! Donations to PCLinuxOS are completely voluntary, and unless me directing you to their webpage led to such an intense feeling of guilt inside you that you had no choice but to donate I cannot see how I have worked to financially benefit any organization whatsoever! Perhaps I'm being naive, if so please better explain how I am being so craftily manipulated, I am interested to hear!
5. Your point about state monopolies on use of computers is an interesting one. I accept what you say, but I do not accept that the use of PCLinuxOS will make it any easier for any government to have greater control of what their citizens do. In deed, using Microsoft products is an open invitation to become under the control of a whole host of companies and governments, as is very much already the case. By using community developed free software as far as I can see you have much greater freedom and less chance of having your liberties curtailed. This is one of the reasons that I am such a strong advocate of Linux as I resent the control that governments and corporations exercise through Microsoft software. This still inevitably happens on Linux machines, but IMO to a much much smaller extent. Therefore I do not see how your criticism holds at all on this point - you are saying that there is a risk that governments could use Linux to better control the activities of their people, and I certainly accept this, but I state that this risk is much smaller by using Linux than any other type of operating system that I know of, so surely you should in fact agree with me in supporting Linux regarding these issues!
6. As for my sales pitch, well, the whole post was a sales pitch, and that long part that you identified was simply to show people who were unfamiliar with Linux (the vast majority of computer users in the world) what they are missing. What it has to do with anarchism is that I am trying to get more people to use Linux, and it seemed to me that if anybody would be receptive to the improvements that Linux has over M$ products, it would be you people who understand very well the importance of privacy and freedom in all its forms.
7. Well I mostly agree with you that whether some form of DRM is incorporated into the Linux Kernel is fairly inconsequential regarding its supremacy over Vista - so what is your point? In the section of text that you highlighted regarding this point, I was trying to convey the continued illegal and immoral activities of the company that you support when you use M$ software, and identify a few other issues with the operating system, as I thought I had made clear.
8. Hmm...perhaps you do believe me to be a 'liberal proselytizer', I would certainly not describe myself as such. Surely you are not seriously suggesting that consumer decisions cannot affect corporations! I won't go into any economic or basic logical theory here, but this suggestion seems completely untenable to me. I recommend Linux to you for a number of reasons. Yes I wish for M$ and Apple for two companies to collapse, but that is by no means the only reason that I support Linux. I don't know about you, but if I see a problem that I want fixed, it makes sense for me to go and try to fix it. You seem to be advocating some type of angry adolescent fatalism. If you have any better suggestions on how to weaken the monopolies on computer software and hardware (that will come to fruition in the next ten thousand years) I'd be very interested to hear them. The way I see it, Linux is a better product than those that are currently used as far as the consumer is concerned, and also as far as freedom and morality are concerned. It therefore makes sense to me to try and make as many people use it as possible. Surely you would not advocate use of commercial products over Linux?
Now for some comments on other replies:
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There was content, I said Linux is pimped by smug cunts, FACT! And it doesn't support decent games, FACT!Also I’d have been nicer except his comment about Nazism on the AF thread made him fair game.
OK, assuming that you are correct that Linux is pimped by 'smug cunts' as you suggest, what on earth has this got to do with whether or not you use it? Are you trying to say that Windows or Macintosh is not pimped by 'smug cunts'? If so I need to give you some links to change your mind as I can assure you that this is not the case. Also, the fact that Linux (desktop) users are in the tiny minority means that no matter how smug we were, it would nigh impossible for us to 'out-smug' our competitors given their massive majority!
To say that Linux doesn't support decent games is incorrect. It certainly does. However, the amount of recent games that it supports are very small in comparison to Windows, and emulation style programs are often a poor substitute in my experience. However, support is ever increasing, with the worlds two largest graphics cards manufacturers actively supporting Linux now for the first time ever, and more and more cutting edge open source games are in development, with support increasing for old games again ever increasing. More to the point however, I would expect that anarchists would sympathize with the situation that Linux finds itself in and not seek to ridicule and criticize the efforts of those dedicating thousands of hours of their time making free games whilst actively being targeted by M$ and hardware companies to try and change the current capitalist system! How quaint of you to poo poo the efforts of these people when looking down from you high ivory industry-supporting tower! You will be proud to continue to support massive companies like EA with their ever increasing prices and ever decreasing content will you? Rather an embarrassing viewpoint I should think for someone who styles themselves as an anarchist!
As for my comments on Nazism making me 'fair game', I have not yet seen replies to that post of mine, but until I do I stand by what harmless question that I posed, and am happy to answer any criticism that you level at me over this or that issue. You need not fear that you shall bully me into a corner with ignorant generalisations and childish arrogant lies, though by all means please feel free to test that theory.
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Do you run your vegan-themed website using Linux?
I am not a vegan, if that’s what you seek to imply, and neither are the majority of Linux users as far as I know. I for one do not have the willpower to be a vegan, and have health concerns about becoming one. If you want gaping genitalia as your desktop background, you can achieve that as easily as in any other operating system, but I for one have no need for such reminders of my manliness or whatever other aspect of my person that you sought to criticise.
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aye of course grin Debian Linux - easily the best, most secure and easiest to maintain scalable web/etc server operating system out there.
Hello fellow Linux user! I'm afraid that I'm not skilled enough to use debian, though I have tried. From what I hear it is a magnificent distro, and the one of choice for real 'Linux heads'! Thanks for the support.
I hope that this serves as a reply to some of the above queries.
Mar 8 2007 21:28
#26
catch wrote:
revol68 wrote:
because Linux is pimped by smug stupid cunts like you and secondly cos it doesn't support decent games.Sorry, did I miss when this post was in libcommunity?
Yes, sorry about that, its here because I originally posted it here, and only later realised that it should be in the general section, and so I tried to delete this post and then repost it in the general area, but I couldn't see a way to delete this one...Also I could have double posted it in the community area, but I thought that this was rather spam like behavior, and would probably be frowned upon, so I had little choice but to leave it here.
Sorry for the poor location, any moderators feel free to move it to a more suitable area!
Mar 8 2007 21:47
#27
Winblows, it cost a fortune,you spend more time doing scans for worms,virii and trojans than you do on the computer, then you have to ask billy boy's permission if you can have a program installed,you have your DRM's and get your system locked and then re-activated,then you have your freezes and crashes,it sure must be good to be brainwashed by the biggest pirate there is. See all that about Winblows, now here's a few words about Linux.
LINUX IS FREEDOM.
Linux users are computer users,we DON'T need permission,we OWN our computers. billy boy owns yours.
So before your call Linux users "STUPID CUNTS" Take a look at yourself you braindead bunch of PUSSEY'S.
Mar 8 2007 21:50
#28
LINUX IS FREEDOM!!!!11
This is too funny.
Mar 8 2007 21:56
#29
PC-LOST wrote:
So before your call Linux users "STUPID CUNTS" Take a look at yourself you braindead bunch of PUSSEY'S.
does linux support asio 2 sound card drivers (with minimal latency), ableton live 5, cubase sx 3, recent games?
Mar 8 2007 22:36
#30
I'm sorry; I don't know the answer to that question. Have you tried alternative free programs? There are several distributions packaged just for professional audio editing, in fact there are versions of Linux tailored a vast array of needs, including digital photography, digital video editing, gaming, impenetrable security, etc. etc.!
There are many hardware databases which you can visit in order to check whether your equipment will work with a specified distribution, including:
http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatibility.html
http://www.linux-drivers.org/
http://www.phoronix.com/lch/
http://www.mandriva.com/hardware (just for Mandriva and branches of it including PCLOS (I think))
to name but a few.
Typing the model number of your hardware + Linux into Google will usually yield useful information about compatibility and locations to download drivers from.
I very much expect that you will find your hardware better supported by PCLOS than by M$ Vista.
If you find that there is little or no support for your hardware in Linux (unlikely) then you should put in a request to one of the many Linux driver coding projects going on, who may be able to give you better advice as to what to do next.
Regarding games, as I mentioned before, there are several recent games available that work 'natively' in Linux, that is that they function straight out of the box. For ones which games developers have actively decided to exclude from the Linux market, usually due to illegal exclusion agreements with M$, you can try either using Cedega available at transgaming.org for download (though for continued use requires subscription) or 'crossover office', both of which have databases listing which games are known to function well under them. You may also like to try Wine and crossover office with the Audio programs that you mentioned, they may well work, but also be sure to Google them, I'm sure that there are hundreds of people asking just the same question, and you should quickly be able to find an answer to whether they will work or not.
HOWEVER, I would like ONCE AGAIN to point out that these sort of questions really do not address the real issue, and display the misplaced attitude of so many M$ software users.
IT IS NOT LINUX's RESPONSIBILITY TO CATER FOR WHATEVER CAPRICIOUS ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES THAT LARGE COMPANIES GET UP TO. FOR INSTANCE, ASK NOT WHETHER LINUX SUPPORTS A CERTAIN GAME, BUT WHETHER THE CERTAIN GAME SUPPORTS LINUX! Linux developers do all they can to make other software work with their systems, but software owners employ all sorts of tricks to make complete interoperability impossible, not least by legislation.
As anarchists I would expect the community here to be more receptive to the opportunity to take power out of the hands of detrimental corporations, and stop contributing money, private information and time to these people.
"Hah! bet you don't have a button at the bottom left of the desktop saying start on in do you?!" nope, we don't. We don’t have a lot of things that we don't want from Window$. We don't have their proprietary software and license agreements that enslave your computer and your activities on it to their corporation, we don't have the obligation to buy music from certain places and listen to it in certain ways. And consequently we end up effectively boycotting a lot of software from companies that say 'either conforms exactly to our wishes, or we wont get our product working on your system'.
The more people that use Linux the easier it will become to do so, and the more power we will wield over the market. When afed take control of the country, I doubt they will wish to use M$'s proprietary software - or will they write their own fully functional virtually bug free extensively tested operating system overnight?
Please people, if you have any real criticisms of what I have suggested, put them forward now, because removing your mind forged manacles one by one isn't much fun.
If you don't want to use Linux, that’s fine with us. Few distributions seek to drag hating capitalists kicking and screaming into their camp. Just don't offer up debunked corporate myths in your defense and expect no replies.
Yo, just for your info, the abbreviation is actually MS. $ is the symbol for a dollar, and thus does not represent the letter S.
Thought I better let you know or you might look silly!