Anarchist origins - crap article by CPGB

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Jacob Richter
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Nov 24 2011 04:51

Kautsky wrote a work called The Driving Forces and Prospects of the Russian Revolution. If you can get Historical Materialism: Witnesses to Permanent Revolution, this work is one of the pieces there.

This was Lenin's review:

http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1906/dec/00b.htm

The Mensheviks were promoting more or less worker political abstentionism. Supposedly, worker opposition would have been built during the "first stage." The problem, of course, is that the bulk of the Mensheviks went to bed with the not-so-revolutionary Provisional Government (in addition to initially supporting the war and supporting its continuation).

Re. the actual Russian Revolution, both Kautsky and Luxemburg should have criticized instead:

1) The abolition of equal suffrage. As opposed to universal suffrage, which allows elite and petty capitalists, landlords and other rentiers, merchants and brokers, priests, political reactionaries, etc. to vote and be (s)elected, I'm referring here to the one-person-one-vote principle, which was blatantly violated in favour of the proletarian demographic minority and against the peasant demographic majority (via the weighting of urban soviets).

2) The anti-soviet Bolshevik coups d'etat in 1918, when local Bolshevik thugs harangued and shut down local soviets that didn't return Bolshevik majorities.

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Nov 24 2011 09:56
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They [the CPGB] don't do much in the way of front work (i.e., Communist Students and HOPI).

I don't understand why everyone has to have front work/groups? Is it not really dishonest?

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Nov 24 2011 10:18

Stalin Society or Supra-Nationalist mirror image of Nazism!The same people who excuse Stalin for the Ukrainian Famine in which up to 10 million people died by blaming peasants for resisting Stalinist forced collectivisation!The meeting would attract admiring fellow Fascists if they understood the unrequited admiration Stalin had for Adolph.THE STRUGGLE AGAINST FASCISM BEGINS WITH THE STRUGGLE AGAINST BOLSHEVISM!

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Nov 24 2011 10:24
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Battlescarred, look it up on the internet, you don't want a hard copy of that shit wink . but your right it isn't the worst thing about CPG.

I have Stalin's "Problems of Leninism" but I'm neither a Stalinist nor a Leninist. I have it as a historical curiosity. Honest.

Still pales in the face of the protocols eek

Also, just noticed I wrote CPG. I obviously meant CPB

why not start a thread over there at LibCommunity: "The most disgusting political book on my bookshelf"

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Nov 24 2011 14:25
wojtek wrote:
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JacobRichter wrote:
They [the CPGB] don't do much in the way of front work (i.e., Communist Students and HOPI).

I don't understand why everyone has to have front work/groups? Is it not really dishonest?

It's usually done dishonestly but I don't think it's dishonest in itself. I think it mainly stems from the need to recruit and the need to get full timers and ambitious party members into positions where they can feel important. It's also an article of faith for Trots: the united front...which the One True Revolutionary Party then takes control of. I think the reason it almost always done dishonestly is because few people are interested in participating in a campaign run by a trot group, so it's best if the punters don't see behind the scenes.

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Jan 29 2012 00:17

the CPGB doesn't recruit from HOPI, though probably a bit from Communist Students. CS pretty much works autonomously from the CPGB (i.e. the CPGB doesn't tell them what to do or directly control them). The point of HOPI, from what I gather, is that it's actually critical of the Theocracy rather than white washing it and so it was kicked out of STWC but " Encourage individual members of supporters of Hopi to become/remain members of StWC, to support its activities and to raise the exclusion in appropriate coalition forums." (i.e. reform it from within).

http://hopoi.org/?page_id=580

That's its policies.