Anarchist\illegalist gang or cartel type group?

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Nov 16 2011 13:32

you're not confusing them with the Green & Black Cross are you?

you know the guys - http://greenandblackcross.org - the anarchist chocolate making collective

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Nov 16 2011 15:18

Ha ha, but no:

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TACTICAL DEFENSE:
A working group of the Denver Anarchist Black Cross, the Denver Armed Resistance Committee, focuses on providing tactical defense training to members of DABC and social movements active in the Denver area.

In 2010, we hosted four public introductory level firearms skillshares, sharing knowledge with over 50 people. These introductory classes cover safety and handling, as well as mechanics and history of tactical firearms. DARC members also participated in and led several live fire trainings, as well as a direct action tactical training, focused on unarmed, but militant, street demonstrations.

http://anarchistnews.org/node/13339

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Nov 16 2011 15:54

Thank you Steven.

And i am talking about the "weird American group called the Anarchist Black Cross Federation". Although I'm nt sure if it's the same one that began with the Red Cross foundation. The ABC's history is apparently told rather differently from region to region as I've been told.

And I was never trying to make any sort of connection with the FARC and or the PKK to Anarchism. i was simply using them as examples really.

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Nov 16 2011 16:01

I agree with malva, there is a lot more that seems to be sorted out before you start writing confused . That said, Radicalgraffiti's suggestion that you check out Nestor Makhno et al. is probably a good way to go

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Nov 16 2011 16:31

Thanks Steven, and yes I am talking about "weird American group called the Anarchist Black Cross Federation" although I'm not sure if it's the same ABC group that began with the Red Cross foundation. Apparently the ABC's history is told rather differently from region to region as I've been told.

And i Wasn't trying to connect the FARC and or the PKK to Anarchism of any kind. I was simply using them as examples.

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Nov 16 2011 16:32

Damn you repost...

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Nov 16 2011 16:40
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I agree with malva, there is a lot more that seems to be sorted out before you start writing confused . That said, Radicalgraffiti's suggestion that you check out Nestor Makhno et al. is probably a good way to go

What exactly do you mean? I've already started writing this and it's not a case of confusion, if anything its over complication of an aspect of a group that doesn't readily identify with any aspect of Anarchism (again mainly because another faction they are allied with is known simply as "the Anarchists".)

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Nov 16 2011 19:32

JESUS H CHRIST! All my life I've been waiting for this chance! HorrorHiro - Are you looking for a fat, bald bloke for the lead role? Eh? Eh? C'mon!

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Nov 16 2011 21:09

plasmatelly, Can never have to many actors but since we haven't even started filming yet the whole cast is pretty much our friends and people who just want to wave prop-weapons and run around. So if your planning on this being your big break or something...well lets just see what the receptions like.

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Oct 12 2013 23:01

@ HH Anarchist communes exist today all over America. Somthing that binds these people together is of course thier shared idology but more over thier hate or disdain for something political or societal. For example, it's easier to have a conversation with a stranger about somthing you both hate rather somthing you both like. But anyway directly for your screenwrites sake I'd imagine this splinter group to feel betrayed by the choices or operations the original anarcho group was doing, so this new group splintered on a world wide level and banded together out of a collective hatred. It's believable with an anarchist theme because they have no leader to rally them, just rather spitting off somthing that became too "organized or dictated". But what thease people would actually LOOK like physically I'd imagine a motley bunch of all races, all useful in their trade.look at antifa and black bloc. These are groups of angry violent educated collage kids that act in swarm mentality in there lil riots. And they are always multi cultural.the uniform is always black in the black flag of anarchy tradition. And anarchism means without rulers not without rules, the biggest dystopian novel faux paw. One thing that everyone always seems to forget is that anarchism is a Conservitive view. I know sombody is gonna challenge that last bit.

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Oct 12 2013 23:05

^ wtf is that shit?

also this thread is 2 years old

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Oct 13 2013 10:49
radicalgraffiti wrote:
"1 group in particular is pretty much whats left of a splinter group from the Anarchist Black Cross federation" this makes no sense, ABCs are prisoner support groups, and not a federation

In my experience, many of the ABC groups, while focusing their work on prisoner support, are politically aligned with insurrectionism. That makes sense, really, since you'd expect insurrectionists to put a higher priority on getting their comrades out of jail than on any other form of political work.

And, BTW, I'm vehemently opposed to insurrectionism. It's a losing strategy, taking on capital where it's strongest rather than weakest, substituting the militancy of a minority for the self activity of the immense majority, and with a track record of a manipulative and dishonest way of relating to the wider movement. If they have a class analysis, all they use it for is to identify who are their friends and who are their enemies. They don't use it to help them decide what to do.

The sooner they are liquidated as a political tendency, the better.