What do people think about the commoning and p2p movement? I attended some of their discussions during occupy at bank of ideas and tent city university and they had some interesting/convincing theories and some of it already a reality albeit in immaterial products such as wikipedia, free software and online educational tools.
Oct 26 2012 14:36
Oct 27 2012 17:28
yes admittedly I agree there is a bit of that, some of the commoning stuff (as expressed by the school of commoning) is a bit cultish, but the p2p stuff is the only convincing (and dynamic) alternative to capitalist forms of production I've heard, there are no other visions out there as far as I can see, it would be good to hear if there are though
Oct 28 2012 23:56
the only time i have heard the term commoning is usually by marxist influenced folks. This doesn't seem to be coming out of that milieu from the sound of it. Any links to stuff I can read?
Oct 29 2012 04:12
maybe it's just a more acceptable way of saying communism:
http://p2pfoundation.net/Commoning
and here's some info re p2p stuff:
Oct 29 2012 09:51
ah it is the usual suspects after all (well the definition is). Thanks for links cardy lady, I have never really looked into peer to peer stuff before beyond a couple articles.
Nov 24 2012 07:24
There's some interesting developments, much beyond "just internet stuff". The rise of 3D printing undermines much of what industrial production is predicated on, leading to deeper and more important struggles over "intellectual property". As well as open source simply making by-passing the capitalist production for profit possible.
Dec 2 2012 03:19
fnbrill wrote:
There's some interesting developments, much beyond "just internet stuff". The rise of 3D printing undermines much of what industrial production is predicated on, leading to deeper and more important struggles over "intellectual property". As well as open source simply making by-passing the capitalist production for profit possible.
At 2,500 it ain't ready yet give it time
Can comment on articles and discussions
Hmm, it does sound a bit like the typical idolisation of the internet etc you can get from annonymous/occupy types.