A determination of where the highest level of Communism would be possible

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Haraldur
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Jan 14 2009 03:12
A determination of where the highest level of Communism would be possible

Hello people. I have not posted here in a while, but a few of you may remember me.

Since August (I think) I have been gathering data for this article, which is a rough determination of where post-scarcity communism may be possible, and I have been writing it since November. There is a 3-page synopsis for the lazy or those lacking time, but I recommend the 37-page full report.

Comments and suggestions are welcome, as I would like this to be as good an analysis as possible. I will probably be updating this later this year, regardless, for when the USGS releases reserves data for 2009 (unless there is no change, of course).

Full paper: http://tinyurl.com/a66j6p
Synopsis: http://tinyurl.com/8lmpn5

mk
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Jan 14 2009 17:35

Try to make the communism in Poland!

For the communism you need the communal tradition plus some level of self-sufficient. For beginning.

I think some third world places can be good to look at.

Haraldur
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Jan 15 2009 00:02
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This is the maddest thing I've read since Socialist Steve Wallace.

What is wrong with it, specifically?

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Try to make the communism in Poland!

For the communism you need the communal tradition plus some level of self-sufficient. For beginning.

I think some third world places can be good to look at.

Re: Poland: it may be hard, but it is necessary.

Re: necessities for communism: You are right that a great amount of self-sufficiency (for the total system, though, not individual communities) is required for communism to function: it would not be good to be dependent upon Capitalist areas too much. When it comes to communal tradition, though, I see that more of a nice optional extra. Human behaviour is more malleable than the physical environment and much more malleable than the laws of physics.

Re: third world: I have looked at a few third world places in depth and all of them a little and, sad to say, most of them are lacking the essential for communism, as you would see if you read the Minerals section of the full report. With the exception of China and South Africa, those areas with a large amount of resources tend to be within the areas I say communism is possible in. All of Latin America is included, for example, as well as Northwest Africa and West Asia. For the rest of Africa, only South Africa is really a resource goldmine (pun intended). For the rest of Asia, while China has a lot of resources, its population is so large that its economic growth is dependent upon huge imports of raw material from outside (particularly Russia and Kazakhstan), so it would be impossible, currently, to build communism there based only upon domestic resources. India's situation is worse.

It is clear, then, that Marx was right (sort of) in this case: the less developed areas cannot reach communism without help, and the more developed areas must help themselves first.

akai
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Jan 15 2009 12:50

One time comrade Zaczek tried to scientifically determine where the next social revolution would occur. At least he came up with the India/Bangladesh area - which seems to have more potential than Poland at least. smile I'm sceptical of such formulae and don't see the point.

MT
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Jan 15 2009 14:57

"A determination of where the highest level of Communism would be possible"
is not the same as
"determine where the next social revolution would occur"

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Jan 15 2009 15:33

I would guess Mendocino.

petey
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Jan 15 2009 16:04
fnbrill wrote:
I would guess Mendocino.

not arcata?

Jason Cortez
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Jan 15 2009 16:38
weeler wrote:
I would have to guess TeddyBearsSpooningLand, which is what I've renamed the British Isles, because for some reason its up to me to decide the names of Countries and what language they can speak.

Thanks for the new name Weeler, it is a bit long though.

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Jan 16 2009 15:11
petey wrote:
fnbrill wrote:
I would guess Mendocino.

not arcata?

like dude, ya know the growing season isn't as good.

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Jan 16 2009 16:36

Are Ladbrokes taking bets on this? If they are I will have a fiver each way on Kazakhstan.

Did someone actually waste time writing this nonsense? Catch yourself on and get out more.

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Jan 16 2009 17:16
weeler wrote:
This is the maddest thing I've read since Socialist Steve Wallace.

'There should be ORGANIC food in Africa, after G8 time!'

'at G8 time there's a need to be AFRAID!'