If you can't handle being threatened by a child, maybe you shouldn't be a teacher.

Submitted by Tradere on 2 July, 2008 - 20:30.

The sad fact is this has become the norm for many parents who would rather criticize their child's teacher than admit that their own child is in anyway wrong.

Mr. Kaye looked at the computer screen. The time read 10:25. If this class was going to be dismissed on time, he was going to have to get moving and minimize the distractions. The class had over ten pages scheduled to read aloud, as part of the curriculum for today. Still the class continued to yammer, as though it were lunch or maybe a crowded rock concert. Mr. Kaye raised his hand and roughly five to six of thirty in the class raised their hands. Most of the class was ignoring him, laughing, being social and exercising their freedom of ignorance. This was pretty much an everyday occurrence in Mr. Kaye's class. He had complained to many facets at the school that were supposed to support him, but in the end nothing ever seemed to be done.

Finally after Mr. Kaye started calling out, "A minute and twenty seconds...A minute and twenty-one second," holding up a stopwatch, most of the class quieted down. There were still a few whispers toward the back, but Mr. Kaye recognized (for his class) this was as good as gets.

Mr. Kaye told the students to open their books on their desks to page 36. Then, he walked around the room, forcing many students to flip the books on their desks open to, because quiet frankly most of these children didn't care, disobeying a direct order from a teacher was second nature to them.

Mr. Kaye started to read from the book, but a kid yelled out, "Kawika...Kawika...Kawika!"He was yelling across the classroom with a weird sort of quiet whisper. When Mr. Kaye looked at him, he gave his teacher a look like, "WHAT!!!"

Mr. Kaye started to read again, but he had to stop almost immediately because a girl was playing with her cell phone. He approached the girl, and she quickly shoved the cell phone between her legs, denying that she was even playing with it. Mr. Kaye continued reading, but had to stop five to ten more times for various interruptions. The time was now 10:35, and in ten minutes the class had progressed about two sentences. Mr. Kaye tried reading again, but was interrupted by spitballs and girls writing notes. Mr. Kaye called out, "Ashley put that note away."Ashley replied, "It's not a note."

Mr. Kaye warned the class one last time, "We can do this the easy way, or the HARD WAY." The class acknowledged they were going to do better, but the words were only hollow sounds coming out of their mouths. At 10:40 the class had still not even finished the first paragraph that was when Mr. Kaye put the book down. Mr. Kaye told the whole class to take out a sheet of paper, and with approximately twenty minutes left, he gave the class an assignment. He wrote it on the board.

THE HARD WAY!

READ Chapter 3

Write a full-page summary

During the next ten to fifteen minutes, many students fooled around and talked. A few were writing vigorously, but most wasted the entire time talking and laughing. AT 10:55 Mr. Kaye called the counselor, and asked her, if she could notify the cafeteria some students would be going a little late and to hold the door. Before the bell was going to ring many students began to get angry. There was swearing, some even looked as though they were going to throw temper tantrums. Mr. Kaye calmly assured the students they needed to finish the assignment before they went to lunch. Many students began to complain. Mr. Kaye told all of them the same thing. You need to finish your assignment before you go to lunch.

One student wrote Mr. Kaye a letter in which he blatantly told him he was not going to do the assignment and threatening the security of his job, saying he was going to call his Mom, and perhaps he would have Mr. Kaye fired.

After reading the letter, Mr. Kaye sprang to the telephone, "Let's call your Mom."

"Go ahead," the boy forewarned him, "She's going to be pissed you called her at work."

Mr. Kaye dialed the phone number, and after two to three minutes of waiting, got the Mom on the phone. He calmly explained the scenario, exactly as it happened.

After a long pause, the Mom asked plainly, "How did he threaten you?"

"Did he say he was going to hurt you?"

"No," Mr. Kaye replied.

"How's that a threat?" the Mom asked.

Mr. Kaye explained, how he perceived the child was trying to threaten the security of his job. The Mom replied, "That's not a threat!"

Mr. Kaye replied, "I felt threatened."

The Mom could only say, "She had to hear her son's side of the story."

Mr. Kaye assured her the story he told her was completely unbiased. The Mom continued to stick to her guns, saying she wanted to hear her son's side of the story. When Mr. Kaye realized nothing was going to be done, he asked if the Mom could come in for a parent conference immediately. The Mom told him she would come in two weeks.

Although this seems like a fictional, over-exaggerated story, this is a reality in many classrooms. This happened in my classroom. The day of the parent conference, the Mom told me in so many words, "I don't understand why you became a teacher, if you can't handle getting threatened by a child." That was it. No apology. No alibi. Apparently, I'm supposed to suck it up, because parents are going to keep allowing their children to act however they want to act. I wasn't really sure what to do about it, I wanted to crawl into a hole and hide. I felt weak and angry about the whole experience. Was I over-reacting? I didn't think so, but if I challenged this mother on her questionable parenting skills, I could be fired, or put on probation. I don't understand when it became acceptable for children to bully adults or when teachers lost all their civil rights in the classroom, but this is one teacher who is seriously considering changing careers.

2 July, 2008 - 21:11

I don't think this is the best website to post this.

2 July, 2008 - 21:24

I'm not sure why you would feel threatened in your job security unless you felt that perhaps you were somehow in the wrong here. And my impression is that you were. There are plenty of schools wherein if you tried to prevent the kids from eating lunch at an appropriate time they would just get violent with you. And I wouldn't blame them.

2 July, 2008 - 22:12

Punishing a whole class for the behaviour of a few is generally a sure-fire way to instill a deep resentment of teachers in your pupils.

It's not really clear what your purpose in posting this is - are you looking for advice/suggestions?

2 July, 2008 - 22:18

sounds like a mental hysterical over reaction.

also teachers are cunts.

3 July, 2008 - 05:41

wtf!! weird choice for a topic on here but maybe just needs to vent his spleen!!!

3 July, 2008 - 08:55
xConorx wrote:
Punishing a whole class for the behaviour of a few is generally a sure-fire way to instill a deep resentment of teachers in your pupils.

It's not really clear what your purpose in posting this is - are you looking for advice/suggestions?

Wasn't he just keeping back the ones who hadn't done the assignment? Unless i misread it.

3 July, 2008 - 09:36
Jack wrote:
xConorx wrote:
Punishing a whole class for the behaviour of a few is generally a sure-fire way to instill a deep resentment of teachers in your pupils.

It's not really clear what your purpose in posting this is - are you looking for advice/suggestions?

Wasn't he just keeping back the ones who hadn't done the assignment? Unless i misread it.

Yeah i think so he set the assignment 20 minutes before the end. And depending slightly on the year and ability of the class its not a tough one to get done in 20-30 minutes so its hardly a long detention. I assume he let them know when he set the assignment that if they didn;t finish it they wouldn;t be leaving.till they did because springing a class detenton on kids right at the end of the lesson is obviously a bad idea.
Don;t really know the ins and outs though, i mean did the kid give a reason why they needed to leave quickly? What specific threat did the kid gave?
Unless theres some extenuating circumstances then sure the kid sounds like a bit of a smarmy one but to be fair as conor says unless you've done something wrong, the kids just talking crap. Also at the end of the day you shouldn't take it personally, just pass the problem over to their form tutor or head of year and let them deal with it, afterall thats what they're paid for. If the head of year phones up then it can be combined with a few other issues outstanding against te kid and it becomes an issue of the school rather than your own personal problem in short phoning the parent yourself straight way like that just seems to be asking for trouble. .

3 July, 2008 - 09:38
revol68 wrote:
sounds like a mental hysterical over reaction.

also teachers are cunts.

admin: can someone delete this and also i'd suggest a temp ban since this is plainly trying solely to get a rise out of people

3 July, 2008 - 10:51
cantdocartwheels wrote:
revol68 wrote:
sounds like a mental hysterical over reaction.

also teachers are cunts.

admin: can someone delete this and also i'd suggest a temp ban since this is plainly trying solely to get a rise out of people

it's a mental thread from some weirdo teacher quit being a fucking whinging tout u christian cock.

3 July, 2008 - 11:01
revol68 wrote:
cantdocartwheels wrote:
revol68 wrote:
sounds like a mental hysterical over reaction.

also teachers are cunts.

admin: can someone delete this and also i'd suggest a temp ban since this is plainly trying solely to get a rise out of people

it's a mental thread from some weirdo teacher quit being a fucking whinging tout u christian cock.

ha ha ha grin

B&

3 July, 2008 - 11:47

Yeah Cantdo, fuck up.

3 July, 2008 - 13:48

no i'm agreeing with cantdo, fuck off revol you little prat.

having read the story - thats really not a bhig deal OP, get over it. The kid was being a dickhead but you shouldn't have RISEN to their ridiculous challenge, you totally validated the boy! And that this was the first time you worked out that there's a link between cunt parents and cunt kids suggests you don't work in another country. In a soft school.

3 July, 2008 - 13:56

the kid was being a prick but that's what kids do, you don't hysterically call up their fucking parents like a loon and you certainly don't go posting mental shit on random internet forums about it.

and don't tell me to fuck off you retarded leftist cunt.

3 July, 2008 - 13:57
revol68 wrote:
the kid was being a prick but that's what kids do, you don't hysterically call up their fucking parents like a loon and you certainly don't go posting mental shit on random internet forums about it.

and don't tell me to fuck off you retarded leftist cunt.

fuck off.

3 July, 2008 - 14:03
Tacks wrote:
revol68 wrote:
the kid was being a prick but that's what kids do, you don't hysterically call up their fucking parents like a loon and you certainly don't go posting mental shit on random internet forums about it.

and don't tell me to fuck off you retarded leftist cunt.

fuck off.

fuck me that's some barbed reply, no wonder you want to be the english section of the leadership of ideas.

3 July, 2008 - 14:16
revol68 wrote:
also teachers are cunts.

3 July, 2008 - 15:20
newyawka wrote:
revol68 wrote:
also teachers are cunts.

I'm just quoting this to find out where I can get the shirt!

3 July, 2008 - 15:54

Time for Godwin's law.

Adolf Hitler.

3 July, 2008 - 16:56

Right, this belongs to the bin now.

3 July, 2008 - 20:00

Tradere, you're a fuckin' dork.

3 July, 2008 - 21:13

looks like he or she is a fuckin dork on two sites, as the edarticle.com copy is signed the same way.

3 July, 2008 - 22:55

FUCK SHIT UP
N'SHIT