Italy/operaismo stuff

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Jun 10 2010 20:03
Italy/operaismo stuff

In case anyone's interested, I put two short articles by Mario Tronti and a short story by Nanni Balestrini in the library, here -

http://libcom.org/library/class-party

http://libcom.org/library/struggle-against-labor

http://libcom.org/library/let-thousand-hands-reach-out-pick-gun

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Jun 10 2010 20:48

nice one, cheers! Will take a look...

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Jun 10 2010 22:22

Sure thing Steven, I realized I had this stuff sitting around collecting the electronic version of dust so I figure better to put it here where it might do somebody some use. If you have any thoughts on any of this it I'd be up for discussing it.

Also, I can't figure out how to edit my post so here's a new one. I added some more stuff.

Here's a piece by Panzieri on workers inquiry and a piece co-written by Panzieri and Tronti -

http://libcom.org/library/socialist-uses-workers-inquiry

http://libcom.org/library/panzieri-tronti-theses

two by Sergio Bologna -
http://libcom.org/library/eight-theses-militant-historiography
http://libcom.org/library/factory-society-relationship-historical-category

Here are some excerpts from the Red Notes _Working Class Autonomy and the Crisis_ book -
http://libcom.org/library/working-class-autonomy-crisis

this is embarassing but I can't remember where I got those excerpts from. I could have sworn that the book was online someplace too but I looked and can't fined it. I've got a copy or a partial copy in my email but it's broken up into about a million files. If anyone knows where a downloadable version of that is, please say so. If there is no such version, I can forward the files to you, send me a private message. (haven't looked at the copy in my email in a long while, I can't recall exactly what's there)

And, three somewhat more recent pieces, stuff from the 90s by Virno and Negri, after they'd sort of broken from operaismo. I'm not as keen on the more recent personally but some folk are and I think it's interesting to have documents from these people over time as they're bad about marking how their ideas change etc.

Negri, "Exile"
http://libcom.org/library/exile

Virno "Immaterial Workers of the World" and response by Negri
http://libcom.org/library/immaterial-workers-world-biopolitics-counterpower

Excerpts from Virno's book on the philosophy of time, the excerpts are about the category 'labor power' in Marx
http://libcom.org/library/reflections-labor-power-il-ricordo-del-presente

Also, the famous Semiotext(e) issue on all this is available for download here - http://www.filestube.com/s/semiotext+e

and if folk haven't seen it, the online archive of Big Flame has stuff that's interesting in its own right, historical stuff about the British left, and stuff on the history of how this Italian stuff circulated in English early on --
http://bigflameuk.wordpress.com/

Edit:
If anyone speaks Spanish, there are a few online Spanish language collections of documents etc of material from the Italian 70s that are not in English. If you want the URLs for that stuff let me know.

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Jun 10 2010 22:07

Yeah thanks for this, looks really interesting!

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Jun 10 2010 22:57

cheers, Nate.

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Jun 10 2010 23:06

this is awesome, thanks.

There was a lot of this sort of stuff on class against class, but the site died. We archived a lot of it, but not everything.

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Jun 11 2010 05:35

hi Steven, I really appreciate the Libcom library. If I remember right (and I apoligze if I don't), early on a big part of it was the endpage archive from that sight, and a big part of that came from a CD of texts that Redtwister and maybe someone else put together. All that was done just a few years ago - Redtwister gave me a CD copy in probly like 2002, which is really not that long ago, it's really fantastic that so much of this material's online now. Of course I know libcom's library's much bigger than all that now, which is even cooler. Anyway.

Before I forget again, FYI for you and all - you can get the Class Against Class site content, at least from the original site when it was first online, here - http://reocities.com/cordobakaf/

I'd be willing to help copy some of that stuff into the libcom library if it'd be helpful, since like I say I' think the lirbary is great and I'm grateful for the work folk have put into it.

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. If I remember right (and I apoligze if I don't), early on a big part of it was the endpage archive from that sight, and a big part of that came from a CD of texts that Redtwister and maybe someone else put together.

Yes we started it a few months before the request came through (I think on au-top-sy) for someone to take over endpage archive - we said we'd do it, got sent the CD, then spent about 2-3 months copying things in by hand (by now I could've scripted at least some of it, but that was a very long time ago). I'd say that endpage was responsible for bringing me into contact with things like Echanges et Mouvement and a lot of other ultra-left stuff. Originally the idea with the library was to limit it to a couple of hundred articles we really liked, but endpage completely changed how we looked at it, and between that and the CPE blog I think it's been responsible for much of the trajectory the site has taken (a lot of posters arrive here via the library too).

Always helpful to add articles to it, there's a thread somewhere where we divvied up various geocities sites, only thing to save everyone work is to search for duplicates first smile

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Jun 11 2010 09:25

Nate, thanks for your comments. Yeah, as catch says end page is one of the main reasons libcom is now like it is.

Nate wrote:
Before I forget again, FYI for you and all - you can get the Class Against Class site content, at least from the original site when it was first online, here - http://reocities.com/cordobakaf/

I'd be willing to help copy some of that stuff into the libcom library if it'd be helpful, since like I say I' think the lirbary is great and I'm grateful for the work folk have put into it.

yeah, that would be really great. That site was one of the ones listed in our Christmas archive wish list here:
http://libcom.org/blog/libcom-library-archiving-christmas-wish-list-15122009

I think we have most of the articles from class against class, but if you could do the remainder it would be very much appreciated!

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Sep 3 2011 02:11

Does anyone have a copy of "Working Class Autonomy and the Crisis" they can scan for the Libcom library, or know any other way of getting hold of a copy? It seems impossible to get hold of now. I've been checking internet book sites for ages for it and a copy has never come up. I seem to remember Ed Emery saying somewhere that it had never gone out of print but the email I have for him does not seem to be working any more.

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Sep 3 2011 13:09

The Deterritorial Support Group dedicated a post to the Italian workerist movement which contained lots of material. I don't think the libcom library has all of it.

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Sep 6 2011 03:03

I have a copy somewhere or at least used to have a copy. I'll look around for it, may take me a bit as I'm quite disorganized.

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Sep 7 2011 07:24

Thanks Nate

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Sep 7 2011 20:41

Probably this is the correct thread to post this:

Mario Tronti - Towards a Critique of Political Democracy

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Abstract: Starting from the idea that democracy always binds together a practice of domination and a project of liberation, Tronti formulates the conditions for a critique of democracy that would permit a rebirth of political thought in the current conjuncture. Bringing the heterodox Marxist traditions of ‘workerism’ and the ‘autonomy of the political’ together with the feminist thinking of difference, Tronti underscores the identitarian tendencies of democracy and the difficulties of combining democracy with a genuine notion of freedom. For Tronti, democracy is increasingly synonymous with the pervasiveness of capitalism understood as ‘bourgeois society’, and the victory of ‘real democracy’ (as one might speak of ‘real socialism’) is the sociological victory of the bourgeoisie. The homo oeconomicus and the homo democraticus are fused into the dominant figure of democracy, the ‘mass bourgeois’. Against the depoliticizing consequences of ‘democratic Empire’, Tronti proposes a profound rethinking of our notion of politics, one which should not shy from reconsidering the elitist critiques of democracy.
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subprole wrote:
Probably this is the correct thread to post this:

Mario Tronti - Towards a Critique of Political Democracy

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Abstract: Starting from the idea that democracy always binds together a practice of domination and a project of liberation, Tronti formulates the conditions for a critique of democracy that would permit a rebirth of political thought in the current conjuncture. Bringing the heterodox Marxist traditions of ‘workerism’ and the ‘autonomy of the political’ together with the feminist thinking of difference, Tronti underscores the identitarian tendencies of democracy and the difficulties of combining democracy with a genuine notion of freedom. For Tronti, democracy is increasingly synonymous with the pervasiveness of capitalism understood as ‘bourgeois society’, and the victory of ‘real democracy’ (as one might speak of ‘real socialism’) is the sociological victory of the bourgeoisie. The homo oeconomicus and the homo democraticus are fused into the dominant figure of democracy, the ‘mass bourgeois’. Against the depoliticizing consequences of ‘democratic Empire’, Tronti proposes a profound rethinking of our notion of politics, one which should not shy from reconsidering the elitist critiques of democracy.

hey, if you or someone else was able to post this to the library that would be great

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hey, if you or someone else was able to post this to the library that would be great

just posted the text:
http://libcom.org/library/towards-critique-political-democracy-mario-tronti

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Sep 8 2011 10:16

That's brilliant, thank you!

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Sep 9 2011 04:37

http://libcom.org/library/workerism-politics
http://libcom.org/library/between-panzieri-negri-mario-tronti-workerism-1960s-1970s
http://libcom.org/library/italian-workerism
http://libcom.org/library/politics-work