Rosdolsky on the "national question"

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Nov 4 2012 11:11
Rosdolsky on the "national question"

Does anyone have an electronic copy of either the German original or the English translation of Rosdolsky's text on the "national question"?

* Rosdolsky, R. Zur nationalen Frage. Friedrich Engels und das Problem der 'geschichtslosen' Völker, Verlag Olle & Wolter, Berlin 1979, ISBN 3-921241-56-1.

* Rosdolsky, R. Engels and the `Nonhistoric' Peoples: the National Question in the Revolution of 1848. Glasgow: Critique books, 1987.

* Also published in Critique, No.18/19, 1986.

(Any other Rosdolsky's texts that are not on marxists.org or do not constitute his The Making of Marx's 'Capital' would also be appreciated!)

Thanks in advance!

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Nov 4 2012 12:02

sorry Jura - my access to Critique only goes back to 1997

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Nov 4 2012 13:39

My uni library has the German book if you're interested. Not the English one, however.

So either you're making an interlibrary loan (which I thought you do often anyway) or I can scan it for you.

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Nov 4 2012 14:00

Do you mean the special issue on 'Engels and the “Nonhistoric” Peoples: The National Question in the Revolution of 1848' which is in Critique Volume 18, Issue 1, 1991? if so I can download it and send it to you.

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Nov 4 2012 14:41

Hektor: Maybe I got the year wrong (copied it from Wikipedia), but the text was definitely published in some issue of Critique. If you could download it for me and post it, that would be great.

In which case, Railyon, thank you, but the English translation is just fine.

Has anyone read it BTW?

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Nov 4 2012 15:05

Jura: I sent the pdfs to your protikapitalu.org email address. Let me know how it is.

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Nov 4 2012 15:43

I think, I have some stuff in a rororo paperback from the early 1970ies called "Debatte um Engels"

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Nov 5 2012 09:12

Here's the English translation as it appeared in Critique.

http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/3735247/file.html

Mirrors:
http://depositfiles.com/files/pgnv43iet
https://rapidshare.com/files/4122206925/Rosdolsky-Engels_and_the_Nonhistoric_Peoples-The_National_Question_in_the_Revolution_of_1848.pdf

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Nov 5 2012 12:23

This looks fantastic, thanks for uploading jura.

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Nov 5 2012 12:59

Thanks to Hektor for getting it in the first place!

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S. Artesian
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Nov 5 2012 14:39

Thanks Hektor and Jura

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Nov 9 2012 01:06

Jura, you mentioned Rosdolsky’s other writings besides The Making of Marx’s Capital and those available on marxists.org -- I don't know if this is what you were also looking for, but I found two very short autobiographical writings of his regarding the Holocaust, translated into English.

"A Memoir of Auschwitz and Birkenau." I couldn’t get access to a PDF, though, but I found it available here on a UK organization’s website. It was translated by John-Paul Himka into English and published in Monthly Review 39, no. 8 (January 1988): 33-38. (Incidentally, John-Paul Himka is the same translator who translated Engels and the “Non-Historic” Peoples into English.)

“The Jewish Orphanage in Cracow.” Translated by Diana Rosdolsky and published by the Center for Urban History of East Central Europe in Lviv, Ukraine, October 2009.

By the way, is Rosdolsky considered a sort of forerunner of NML? The Making of Marx’s Capital looks like it focuses very much on Marx's value theory and methodology (though I haven't read it yet -- I feel like I shouldn’t get into it before I get into the Grundrisse more), and I’ve seen various references to him by people like Heinrich, so I wonder if there’s any connection.

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Nov 9 2012 07:30

Ogion, thanks for the links. I was looking for pretty much anything by Rosdolsky smile.

Yes, Rosdolsky is considered a direct forerunner of the "new reading of Marx" (NML), and a more recent one than, say, I. I. Rubin. His book (or, more precisely, the articles originally published separately which later made it into the book) was one of the first writings dealing with the Grundrisse in an extensive way. Ingo Elbe, in his huge book on the NML, devotes a few pages to Rosdolsky as a forerunner.

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Jan 29 2013 05:16

Can someone be kind and send me Engels and the `Nonhistoric' Peoples: the National Question in the Revolution of 1848?

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Jan 29 2013 07:34

Fkesh, the article is still here:

https://rapidshare.com/files/4122206925/Rosdolsky-Engels_and_the_Nonhistoric_Peoples-The_National_Question_in_the_Revolution_of_1848.pdf

If you have trouble downloading it, let me know and I'll reupload it elsewhere.

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Jul 20 2013 15:19

Could anyone please reupload English version of Engels and the `Nonhistoric' Peoples book? All links seem to be dead.

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Jul 20 2013 20:41

Sure:

http://www.uploadmb.com/dw.php?id=1374352597

mirrors:
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/GtAufka1S0/
http://www.filedropper.com/rosdolsky-engelsandthenonhistoricpeoples-thenationalquestionintherevolutionof1848

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Jul 22 2013 15:03

Thank you jura! May I upload it to library websites? Or this file should not circulate widely on the web?

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Jul 22 2013 15:11

Please circulate it as widely as possible wink