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Jan 12 2005 13:39
Absurdism

Absurdism asserts that existence is meaningless in so far as there is no purpose to it. Camus developed the idea that rebellion is the centre of understanding of ourselves. If you rebel against something then you are identifying something in your humanity worth defending; giving yourself definition. He also talked of metaphysical rebellion; "metaphysical rebellion is the means by which a man protests against his condition and against the whole of creation"

Absurdism also asserts that existence is irrational and, quite frankly absurd. The concept of our own existence is so beyond our comprehension that it turns us into funmbling beings; set within an existence for no reason, with no purpose and with no understanding of why. This leads us to try to understand the universe but ultimately lead us to failure. Also, Material possessions have no value and that the only real value in existence is humanity.

What are peoples thoughts on absurdism?

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Jan 12 2005 14:19

Its absurd, bet you didn't see that one coming

Anyways on a more serious note humanity is only kept alive by ''material possessions'' so i don't see how you can draw any sort of line between those two.

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Jan 12 2005 14:24
cantdocartwheels wrote:
Anyways on a more serious note humanity is only kept alive by ''material possessions'' so i don't see how you can draw any sort of line between those two.

I don't quite understand what you mean?

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Jan 12 2005 14:43
Anarchist Tension wrote:
cantdocartwheels wrote:
Anyways on a more serious note humanity is only kept alive by ''material possessions'' so i don't see how you can draw any sort of line between those two.

I don't quite understand what you mean?

Well you said

''Also, Material possessions have no value and that the only real value in existence is humanity''

I'm asking how can you draw a line between the use of ''material possesions'', which is there only real value, and an abstract idea of ''humanity''.

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Jan 12 2005 15:17
cantdocartwheels wrote:
I'm asking how can you draw a line between the use of ''material possesions'', which is there only real value, and an abstract idea of ''humanity''.

I don't really know the answer?

Humanity isn't abstract though. It's extremly real and relevant; considering we are all part of it. Humanity is existence and I think the poiint is that this has more value. I think Camus' point is that humanity as a concept is more valuable than what we generate from our existences. That life is more important than what we own? I'm probably being very vulgar with his philosophy? Do you know anymore on it.

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Jan 12 2005 15:22

So hasnt this guy just made a big name for himself by putting into posh language the observation "life is strange"?? confused

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Jan 12 2005 15:27
3rdseason wrote:
So hasnt this guy just made a big name for himself by putting into posh language the observation "life is strange"?? confused

Yeah, I guess, although i think its more than that. His fiction books are extremly good.

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Jan 12 2005 15:29
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metaphysical rebellion

How is such a thing possible?

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Jan 12 2005 15:30
3rdseason wrote:
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metaphysical rebellion

How is such a thing possible?

He claims that even though you understand your life is meaningless and absurd you should exist it anyway as an act of rebellion agaisnt that absurdness. Im reading 'The rebel' which sets this out. its interesting.

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Jan 12 2005 15:33

Oh I get it. It kinda makes sense. Except that to me metaphysical rebellion implys rebellion beyond the physical and existing seems to be pretty physical.

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Jan 12 2005 15:37
3rdseason wrote:
Oh I get it. It kinda makes sense. Except that to me metaphysical rebellion implys rebellion beyond the physical and existing seems to be pretty physical.

i think the truth is, i'm just shit at explaining it, or...i dont know what im talking about. Don't understand camus through me...it wont work

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Jan 12 2005 15:41

I blatantly won't read him. I get confused and weirded-out enough by life already. eek cry wink

I do get lots of lucid dreams tho btw... which are pretty funky.