Alfreddo M. Bonanno's incomprehensible introduction to The conquest of Bread...

Thrashing_chomsky
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Submitted by Thrashing_chomsky on 18 November, 2007 - 21:33.

Kay, so I'm reading Kropotkins The Conquest of Bread, (currently in the 'Dwellings' section), and it's really easy to understand. Unlike Bonanno's introduction, which sounds like it was written by Noam Chomsky on cocaine trying to get into Emma Goldmans knickers.

Can anyone spell out the basic jist of what he says, in Laymans terms,
cheers.

catch "unpractical[sic] and blinkered"
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18 November, 2007 - 21:48

You got a link?

Thrashing_chomsky
Posts: 150 Joined: 03-06-07 Location: Leeds
18 November, 2007 - 22:05

No link I'm afraid, and it's not on LibComs online version... just hoping someone else has read it or at least tried to.

Anna
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19 November, 2007 - 01:03

I read this when I was 16.
If I remember correctly, it's a load of utter toss. I wouldn't bother with it, just read the Kropotkin.

georgestapleton "an indistinguishable part of a nationalist front sticking up for Irish independence"
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19 November, 2007 - 01:41

I remember reading it and really liking it. Can't remember exactly what was in it though.

Anarcho "Raise the Black Flag!"
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19 November, 2007 - 14:59

It was, basically, an attack on Malatesta and those like him who advocate the need for a specific anarchist organisation. Bonanno, being an insurrectionist, has little time for the idea that anarchism requires anarchists getting people to think anarchism would be a good idea.

Tacks "in it to win it"
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19 November, 2007 - 15:19

i wouldn't worry about it too much grin

Anna
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19 November, 2007 - 21:39

Another shitty introduction to a Kropotkin book - 'Mutual Aid and Evolution' by John Hewetson at the front of Mutual Aid. Hewetson's evolutionary theory is about 10 times worse than Kropotkin's, and he doesn't even have the excuse of writing in 1902.

weeler "temp banned"
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19 November, 2007 - 21:53
Anarcho wrote:
It was, basically, an attack on Malatesta and those like him who advocate the need for a specific anarchist organisation. Bonanno, being an insurrectionist, has little time for the idea that anarchism requires anarchists getting people to think anarchism would be a good idea.

Kinda misrepresented Malatesta and Bonanno there.

Tacks "in it to win it"
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19 November, 2007 - 22:39

dunno about malatesta, but is that unfair to Bonanno?

yoshomon "insignificant mortal"
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19 November, 2007 - 23:57

Yes. He argues for specific anarchist affinity groups. I wonder if the strange wordings of his writings is due to translation.

Steven. ""Best hair at Unison conference""
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20 November, 2007 - 00:14

I've always found Bonanno unreadable. Whether that's due to bad translation or him being full of shit... I'm not sure.

Anna
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20 November, 2007 - 00:16

I think maybe a combination of the two

Tacks "in it to win it"
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20 November, 2007 - 01:32
yoshomon wrote:
Yes. He argues for specific anarchist affinity groups.

Anarcho wrote:
It was, basically, an attack on Malatesta and those like him who advocate the need for a specific anarchist organisation. Bonanno, being an insurrectionist, has little time for the idea that anarchism requires anarchists getting people to think anarchism would be a good idea.

i don't see these statements being contradictory. Affinity groups are not the same thing at all.