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Mar 13 2008 18:16
anarchist fascist website

We've come across a website at anarchy dot net. - Anarchists Alliance International. It's a fascist front.

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Mar 13 2008 18:28

What the fuck? Interbreeding?

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Anarchy and Racism
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No one seems to care how contradictory it is for the powers that be that push the ideas simultaneously that
a) all races are inherently equal
b) there is no such thing as "race"
c) some races need special assistance.

It is obvious that there are noteworthy biological differences with different human populations. However, this shouldn't be either a free ticket to discriminate with great prejudice nor to think that racial gaps should be diminished by interbreeding, because both forms of thinking are very far from what is stable and close to reality.

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Mar 13 2008 19:48

Check out their article on democracy

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Most people are simple-minded and linear-thinking: if it's good for their immediate well-being at the expense of vanishing forests, biodiversity, increasing pollution, and welfare diseases, then why the heck no?

Nice.

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Mar 13 2008 20:11
madashell wrote:
Check out their article on democracy
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Most people are simple-minded and linear-thinking: if it's good for their immediate well-being at the expense of vanishing forests, biodiversity, increasing pollution, and welfare diseases, then why the heck no?

Nice.

fucking hell!

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Mar 13 2008 20:58

Nah. check out their links - through a number of sites to the NF, BNP, C18 to name but a few.

People need to beware. It's a trap to ensnare impressionable minds.

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Mar 17 2008 19:22

Anarcho-fascism? I thought that only existed in our nightmares.

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Mar 18 2008 01:42

Think again, son.

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Mar 18 2008 05:35

Holy fuck, what is the world coming to? First communo-nudism and now this. What a lousy week.

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Mar 18 2008 13:03
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People need to beware.

Somehow, I think even our most impressionable minds will be able cope adequately enough without too much remedial intervention.

mel
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Mar 18 2008 13:18

i am a fascist.

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Mar 18 2008 17:35
Zazaban wrote:
Holy fuck, what is the world coming to? First communo-nudism and now this. What a lousy week.

So what's the problem with communo-nudism? I'm not actually sure what it is, but it doesn't sound that bad, at least not compared to anarcho-fascists.

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Mar 18 2008 17:50

jesus christ.

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Member Organizations

Anarchist-Antitheist Army, (Platformist), North America
BlackStar Coalition, (Underground Collective), North America
Anarchist Brotherhood, (Underground Militant Group), North America
Schuyler's Army (Black Bloc Coordinator), North America, Europe

Affiliates

3Monkeyz: Digital Anarchy (www.3monkeyz.net)

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Mar 18 2008 20:13

3monkeyz.net have taken down the link to AAI from their site. They said they hadn't checked it thoroughly enough and were somewhat embarrassed.

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Mar 18 2008 20:27

I'd be embarassed about having a name like 3monkeyz.net.

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Mar 18 2008 20:54

I did a bit of an online stalk on the anarchy dot net website. Several people with @ anarchy dot net email addys have been contacting groups such as zabalaza, ainfos, etc. So they have obviously putting their feelers out there.

Reminds me a bit of a few years back Troy Southgate contacted local anarch's asking them to join his national anarchists email list.

btw I know how much you like googling your name Troy, so hello again....

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Mar 18 2008 20:56

FYI: A PHONY "ANARCHIST" SITE

In the past few months, a considerable effort has been put into building up a fake "anarchist" website, anarchy DOT net, and making it appear legitimate. A mere shell just a few months ago, this site suddenly includes a blog, a forum with nearly 500 (fake and apparently real) users, a Wikipedia page, a "library", and even an online store selling shirts advertising the site.

Though the site sports a "copyright" (one of many give-aways!) dating back to 1997, the domain was just a gateway to porn sites as recently as 2005. It is currently registered to "Throne Networks", someone with a Virginia PO box who also hosts these other lovely sites:

fuckcapitalism DOT com ("Anti-Capitalism")
ihatejobs DOT com ("I Hate Jobs")
infoterror DOT com ("Infoterror Internet Activist Promotions, Inc.")
antihumanism DOT com ("Anti-Humanism")
nihil DOT org ("Center for Nihilist and Nihilism Studies")
amerika DOT org ("Al-Qaeda Appreciation Society of North America")
corrupt DOT org ("Remaking Modern Society")
nazi DOT org ("Libertarian National Socialist Green Party")
churcharson DOT com ("CHURCH ARSON")
realitynews DOT com ("A look into the real world")
juliusevola DOT com ("Julius Evola: Traditionalist Visionary")
necrocapitalist DOT org ("Necrocapitalist")
pan-nationalism DOT org ("Pan-Nationalist Movement")
penttilinkola DOT com ("Pentti Linkola Fansite")
hessian DOT org ("The Hessian Studies Society")
anus DOT com ("American Nihilist Underground Society")
lostwisdom DOT com ("Lost Wisdom")
zionists DOT com ("Kahanist National Zionist Party")
continuity DOT us ("Continuity MOvement")
genocide DOT org ("genocide, holocaust, and democide studies")
fuckchrist DOT com ("Support the Judeo-Christian Holocaust")
burzum DOT com ("The Music of Burzum and the Writings of Varg Vikernes")
sataniccoalition DOT com ("The Satanic Coalition")
pragmatism DOT us ("Pragmatism Party - Traditional National Democratic Party")

Most of these sites link to several of the others, and up until very recently, even the new "anarchist" version of anarchy.net linked to at least the first six of them. The links were taken down when commenters on the site's blog, and posters on its forums, began objecting to their content. But it is clear that the same organization is behind all of them.

Taken together, these sites appear to be a broad net cast at young people in the process of rejecting inherited, official values. Whether they are a front for "third positionist" fascists, a government operation, part of a spam enterprise, or the product of a bored obsessive, what is abundantly clear is that "anarchy DOT net" is not operating in the interests of the anarchist movement, nor indeed of the majority of the world's people.

If the links with "nazi DOT org" weren't enough, digging a little on the site itself uncovers an explicitly racist position:

http://www.anarchy DOT net/anarchy/anarchy_library/racism/

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No one seems to care how contradictory it is for the powers that be that push the ideas simultaneously that
a) all races are inherently equal
b) there is no such thing as "race"
c) some races need special assistance.

It is obvious that there are noteworthy biological differences with different human populations. However, this shouldn't be either a free ticket to discriminate with great prejudice nor to think that racial gaps should be diminished by interbreeding, because both forms of thinking are very far from what is stable and close to reality.

The same text was pasted as a comment on a third-positionist fascist blog
(http://anarchonation DOT blogspot.com/2007/10/jena-racists.html)
in October, by someone calling himself "Postglobalism" and linking to anarchy.net, with the added line "Every nation needs its own culture, rules and space to live."

The Internet is notoriously full of exactly this kind of bullshit. What makes "anarchy.net" a problem is that it is now pretending to be the "International Anarchists Alliance", an emerging coalition of actual anarchist groups:

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Member Organizations
Anarchist-Antitheist Army, (Platformist), North America
BlackStar Coalition, (Underground Collective), North America
Anarchist Brotherhood, (Underground Militant Group), North America
Schuyler's Army (Black Bloc Coordinator), North America, Europe

Needless to say, these groups are all either fake or imaginary:

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The Anarchist-Antitheist Army, based in North America has come forward to be the first organization to become part of the Anarchist alliance.
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BlackStar is based in North-Eastern USA and South-Western Ontario. The Coalition's contact may be reached through one of our staff.
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The Anarchist Brotherhood operates in northwestern USA, Ontario and Quebec. Contact to the Brotherhood is not permitted.

Anarchists in the US and Canada are forming real organizations. Some are networks that support us in our participation within broader movements for change and resistance in our communities and workplaces; others are specific political groups pursuing collective action strategies. Many are now growing, experiencing a slowly rising wave of social discontent in response to economic anxiety and distrust of government solutions.

But history has proven that lone rebels can be misled. And in the course of a few months, somewhere between dozens and hundreds of visitors to the anarchy DOT net site, many identifying themselves as 13 to 17 years old, have already registered and handed their email addresses over to whoever is behind the site. At the best, this serves as a confusionary diversion. At worst, though, it provides a point of contact for fascist indoctrination, or a fresh FBI file.

Spread the word about "anarchy DOT net", and if you've already been duped yourself, be more careful. If you are interested in what anarchists (and our friends) have to say about the world we live in and our prospects for making revolutionary social change together, try one of these sites:

http://WWW.ANARKISMO.NET
http://WWW.INFOSHOP.ORG
http://WWW.LIBCOM.ORG
http://WWW.IWW.ORG
http://WWW.NEFAC.NET
http://WWW.CRIMETHINC.COM

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Mar 18 2008 21:11

I can't publicize it here because there are too many right-wing anarchists who say the same shit and I'd wind up getting them in touch with like minds. sad

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Mar 18 2008 22:20

good stuff MJ

Knightrose, i believe you had some info on whose site this is and where it was registered? Am i right in thinking that this was all from Varg Vikernes himself?!

Vikernes (or whatevs his rl name is) was a leading Black Metal dude, killed a band mate, became a nazi in prison - now will not use drums in his music cos they are 'african'.

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Mar 18 2008 22:29

This is a scam of nigerian proportions

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http://bbs.anarchy.net/viewtopic.php?t=325
The idea behind making this is to save newcomers from needing to sift through hundreds of old posts to find out what we are about. If someone will sticky this, I'll be sure to keep it as updated as possible. Let me know if I left out something important Wink

Purpose:
The goal of Anarchia is proving that an anarchistic society can not only exist, but flourish. We hope that by setting such an example, we can encourage others to free themselves from the indoctrination of the current social/economic system.

Location:
The current plan is to purchase Isla Guafo which is located off the coast of southern Chile. The coordinates are 43"36'S 74"42'W, for those who wish to find it on a map. The island has enough timber to net us an additional $10,000,000 to finance construction of the initial settlement. Salmon farming is another potential source of initial income.

Philosophy:
The original Anarchia will be a land for Anarchists-Without-Adjectives. Additional land may be obtained later for more specialized communities. There are no laws in Anarchia. However, there is a code (guidelines):

I. I will honour myself, my comrades, and our collective.
II. I am equally responsible for the safety of our collective.
III. I will work my equal share according to my capabilities and skills.
IV. I recognize the power of no government, no authority, and no borders; I recognize that if any of these things exist, it is my responsibility to revolt against them.

Violation of this code may result in expulsion from Anarchia.

Economics:
Anarchia will use a gift economy system for the production and consumption of goods. This will remove the class structure and wage slavery which plagues society today. The island will be as self-sufficient as possible. Electricity will come from renewable sources (wind, solar, tidal). Food will be produced by farms on the island. We will export surplus products to the world. This will allow us to import goods that we are unable to produce.

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Mar 18 2008 22:54
Felix Frost wrote:
Zazaban wrote:
Holy fuck, what is the world coming to? First communo-nudism and now this. What a lousy week.

So what's the problem with communo-nudism? I'm not actually sure what it is, but it doesn't sound that bad, at least not compared to anarcho-fascists.

An ideology that believes that clothing is bourgeoisie and a form of oppression and most be abolished. It's more humorous than anything.

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Mar 18 2008 23:13
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Vikernes (or whatevs his rl name is) was a leading Black Metal dude, killed a band mate, became a nazi in prison - now will not use drums in his music cos they are 'african'.

He's not a nazi- just a white supremacist. It's worth noting the difference, even though neither are good. Good musician though.

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Mar 18 2008 23:26

i'm normally a bit of a trainspotter when it comes to fash,but rarely have i distinguished between Nazi and white supremacist!

whats the difference?

Agreed, Black Metal is fucking great.

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Mar 19 2008 02:15
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i'm normally a bit of a trainspotter when it comes to fash,but rarely have i distinguished between Nazi and white supremacist!

whats the difference?

Agreed, Black Metal is fucking great.

Nazism is an entire ideology involving a totalitarian state and a system of eugenics, while white supremacy is anything saying that people of european decent are better than everyone else. So, all nazis are white supremacists, but not all white supremacists are nazis.

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Mar 19 2008 04:58

MJ - Very good stuff until you get to that very last website, what's going on there? Also, can I ask what other groups you've sent that out to?

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Mar 19 2008 05:42

ncwob: Sorry, just trying to be as ecumenical as possible, because the word needs to get out. At the end of the day, I'm fine with sending certain types of precocious 13 year old suburban mallpunks toward Crimethinc, if the previous five links just weren't doing it for them -- as long as they find it more appealing than the nihilism/eugenics crap at Corrupt's burgeoning internet empire.

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http://www.c orrupt.org/data/1085.html
http://www.co rrupt.org/data/faq/
http://www.cor rupt.org/act/plan/
http://www.corr upt.org/articles/anarchy/
http://www.corru pt.org/radio/07.10.04

I haven't spread it very far due to time constraints. Please send it around! When I get a chance I'll make sure the hundred-odd email addresses gullible users publicly posted on their forum get a copy.

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Mar 19 2008 11:35
Zazaban wrote:
Tacks wrote:
i'm normally a bit of a trainspotter when it comes to fash,but rarely have i distinguished between Nazi and white supremacist!

whats the difference?

Agreed, Black Metal is fucking great.

Nazism is an entire ideology involving a totalitarian state and a system of eugenics, while white supremacy is anything saying that people of european decent are better than everyone else. So, all nazis are white supremacists, but not all white supremacists are nazis.

the things you learn!

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Mar 19 2008 11:36

good chap MJ smile

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Mar 19 2008 12:11
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He's not a nazi- just a white supremacist. It's worth noting the difference, even though neither are good. Good musician though.

He's borderline nazi. He shares his Odin worship and Aryan Pride bs with quite a few neo-nazi/ national-chauvinistic-romantic groups in Norway. His music is shite IMO.

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Mar 19 2008 13:24

he didn't kill a band mate either, afaict. unless you mean like a band [someone in a band] mate [someone who is a mate].

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Mar 19 2008 13:48

Hahaha, I knew it was worth having you here lem.

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Mar 19 2008 14:46
Zazaban wrote:
An ideology that believes that clothing is bourgeoisie and a form of oppression and most be abolished. It's more humorous than anything.

Sounds fun. Have you got any links? Probably wouldn't be very practical here in Norway, though, considering the climate...