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Feb 24 2007 20:14

I've been biting my fingers all day laugh out loud

Eta: Besides which i'll be the bastard who people assume supports violence toward mh staff roll eyes

Thanks for that btw David in Atlanta

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Feb 25 2007 19:25
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Thats rediculous!

As ridiculous as the mental health patients who get attacked by mental health staff day in day out? In the most humiliating and degrading manner possible? Or are they excused because we're mad? Attack them, for they know not what they do?

Ah, tis all shite.

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Feb 25 2007 19:44

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are they excused because we're mad?

Obviously. In the same way as a dentist is excused for drilling your teeth.

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Feb 26 2007 17:35

lobotomies all round then, yes?

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Feb 26 2007 17:47

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lobotomies all round then, yes?

Wouldn't do any general harm. Works for the Royal Family and other Christian traditions. Ha ha. Check out my br's.

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Feb 28 2007 17:28

Imo anyone with schizpohrenia should read some of the old works: schneider or krapelin. I don't know iI might be wrong but it seems very true, though quite nasty. I mean Kraepelin calls it deamentia

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Feb 28 2007 18:55

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I don't know I might be wrong but it seems very true, though quite nasty.

Can you really sense truth? Jesus, you anarchists are taking this whole empathy thing a bit too far now.

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Feb 28 2007 19:05

Well, I mean that his descriptions of me, sound like they match with me. But I may be confusing motivational states justified beliefs. Tho I think phenomenology hasn't helped, because I almost use some kind of quasi-free variation on shit like this to get to something that seems impossible or noticeablely different to what I started with: which I suppose you say I sense: like you just know when a maths puzzle has been solved.

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Feb 28 2007 21:26

Dearest Lem,

Please, please, please could you adopt a clearer, expository prose style so that mortals like me have some chance of understanding you. I always think you have lots of interesting things to say; but I can never quite work out what they are.

Come to think of it, you're not an academic, are you?

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Feb 28 2007 21:59

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Come to think of it, you're not an academic, are you?

Like Gangster. Now there was anti-psychiatry in a nut shell for you.

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Well, I mean that his descriptions of me, sound like they match with me

All the fruit loops that gravitate towards the politico scene, well you know poverty and that, it’s mostly thanks to them we’ve still got loads. So cheers.

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Feb 28 2007 22:13

Personally, I don't reckon the problem is with what you have, the problem is how you got there, and who you can blame. And if you got there, you can get back to where you were before, taking down your enemies on the way.

Ooh, I've come over all Maoist!

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Feb 28 2007 23:10
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Well, I mean that his descriptions of me, sound like they match with me

All the fruit loops that gravitate towards the politico scene, well you know poverty and that, it’s mostly thanks to them we’ve still got loads. So cheers.

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Such a total wanker.

Lem, I wouldn't worry about this prick.
You're making a genuine attempt to understand something. A smug arsehole like LR has no idea about genuine attempts at understanding anything.

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Mar 1 2007 00:31
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Come to think of it, you're not an academic, are you?

Like Gangster. Now there was anti-psychiatry in a nut shell for you.

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Well, I mean that his descriptions of me, sound like they match with me

All the fruit loops that gravitate towards the politico scene, well you know poverty and that, it’s mostly thanks to them we’ve still got loads. So cheers.

Love

LR

Yeah I think you're sane LZ Please, I'm delusional, not just a little pd like you. I never know wtf you are on about. I'm not a mystic - is saying that I'm not a mystic a mystic... oh shit you do know why you are poor don't you LZ, and what to do about it?

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Mar 1 2007 00:33
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Well, I mean that his descriptions of me, sound like they match with me

WTF do you know how irrational thinking that is weird is. Might be a weird tone of phrase, but you don't think that a psychiatrists description of schizophrenia might be a description of me?

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Mar 1 2007 00:34

Want a fight lazy riser. Don't you weigh about 100lbs?

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Mar 1 2007 00:37

I might come across as a little simple but I'm not!

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Mar 1 2007 00:38

Lazy! Wtf you don't know the meaning of the word. You are a desparate wannabe LR.

Sorry about all the posts in a row. Rofl and all that. You have no idea who I am. If you disgaree then explain, and I'll cry myself to sleep tonight. Go on then.

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Mar 1 2007 00:42
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Come to think of it, you're not an academic, are you?

Like Gangster. Now there was anti-psychiatry in a nut shell for you.

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Well, I mean that his descriptions of me, sound like they match with me

All the fruit loops that gravitate towards the politico scene, well you know poverty and that, it’s mostly thanks to them we’ve still got loads. So cheers.

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Nasty bigot.

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Mar 1 2007 00:43

Go on lr you know who i am. why not take the chance to humiliate me and say

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Mar 1 2007 00:44

you are a coward as well as a nutter then lr?

confused

Erm nah I don't get why you hate me. Thing is that when you say "poverty" you do actually mean bristish working class people. Which is where the joke is imho.

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Mar 1 2007 10:11

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WTF do you know how irrational thinking that is weird is

Socialism is such a joke. Its only advocates are losers, cripples and head-cases looking for compensation for their incapacity and the mediocrities and compassion junkies who lead them.

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Mar 1 2007 11:55

Lordy! He's a Nietszchean!

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Mar 1 2007 12:04
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Lordy! He's a Nietszchean!

LOL. Maybe it's the tertiary syphillis talking...

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Mar 1 2007 19:51
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Its only advocates are losers, cripples and head-cases looking for compensation for their incapacity

You may have a point but I would like to know how you identified me as inadeqaute. How, in what way, and for what.

I'm not really insulted tbh, I only reacted cos Steggsie seemed to think it was worse than your usually insanity.

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Mar 1 2007 20:12

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how you identified me as inadeqaute.

My posts use quotes to make general points rather than comment on particular individuals. The idea that something is about you in particular is a typical example of disordered thinking though. The sense of being unfairly stereotyped central to the leftist ethos. An ethos of inadequacy, as you say.

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Mar 1 2007 20:21
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The idea that something is about you in particular is a typical example of disordered thinking though.

True enough, but I didn't think it was an unfair stereotyping.

I don't see why anarchist inadeuqacy bothers you. Sure its not the greatest aesthetic - but what do you expect from it.

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Mar 1 2007 21:01

Lazy, as this thread was once about psychiatry, why not try some self-analysis? You troll and bait your way across the threads, seemingly oblivious to your own banality and superciliousness. While you're at it, have a look back over your 4071 posts and ask yourself what inadequacy really means.

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Mar 1 2007 21:06

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I didn't think it was an unfair stereotyping.

There it is again, folding in on itself. This statement implies someone in particular was being discussed rather than the psychology of leftism in general. Besides, despite it not being thought, it was certainly sensed…

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Nasty bigot.

…perhaps using that curious talent for “sensing the truth” that prevails in certain quarters.

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I don't see why anarchist inadeuqacy bothers you.

That’s because “I” don’t exist. The set of bothering things has no members. There’s no researchable phenomena here beyond a sequence of words.

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what do you expect from it.

Reducing the amount of surrounding enigma rarely plays to this-or-that’s advantage. Besides, my expectations are no more relevant than my shoe size.

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Mar 1 2007 21:16

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You troll and bait your way across the threads, seemingly oblivious to your own banality and superciliousness.

As baboon knows, the trolling and baiting is a product of your disordered mind, as is the idea that you're replying to a real person rather than a set of words on the internet. Your faulty cognisance coupled with poor impulse control are the only forces at play, there are no deliberate attempts to humiliate or belittle you.

I’m sure from some perspectives the current colonisation of libcom by people with mental health problems is trolling, just like the ICC were believed at one time to be trolling and baiting with their particular brand of left communism.

However, the left in general, and the anarchist left in particular, has always had more than its fair share of tonto. They’re attracted to it like flies to shit.

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Mar 1 2007 22:01
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This statement implies someone in particular was being discussed rather than the psychology of leftism in general.

Its amazing how "your posts" are so self referential, yet they never (apparently) refer to other people's.

I think the idea of you defneding your sanity, could take a while. For whatever thats worth.

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...perhaps using that curious talent for “sensing the truth” that prevails in certain quarters

If you and you're poeple are bothered enough by inadequacy and disability, then I suspect that they are not ready. And that that can only be a good thing, from my "exoectations", or whatever you are calling it this week.