Anti-smoking legislation

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Caiman del Barrio
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Jan 17 2005 23:40
Anti-smoking legislation

Discussing the recent stringently anti-smoking legislation passed in Ireland, and the less recent and less far-reaching anti-smoking legislation passed on these shores (banning billboard advertising etc) with someone, I realised that I actually have a threadbare understanding of the situation.

What is the motivations of the Irish government in banning public smoking?? Is it to keep the working class healthier and thus more productive?? Is it to gain more votes on a humanitarian angle?? Surely a heavily smoking nation works in their favour??

AnarchoAl
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Jan 18 2005 15:49

Less cost to the health service? Maybe just ideology?

tumble-weed
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Jan 18 2005 20:04
AnarchoAl wrote:
Less cost to the health service? Maybe just ideology?

nah cos the money that comes from the tax on tobacco covers the cost of smoking related illness and more....

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Jan 19 2005 10:22
tumble-weed wrote:
AnarchoAl wrote:
Less cost to the health service? Maybe just ideology?

nah cos the money that comes from the tax on tobacco covers the cost of smoking related illness and more....

I suppose you could argue that it doesn't cover loss of revenue through days off sick through smoking-related illnes, though?

And, as far as I understand it, the ban in Ireland was on smoking in the workplace - i.e. to protect worker's health (especially bar workers). So perhaps there was a fear of employers getting sued by workers who've ended up sick because of passive smoking.

In any case, are we arguing that every single state intervention is bad per se? What about legislation on asbestos, etc?

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Jan 19 2005 11:23

the anti-smoking legislation was discussed here:

http://enrager.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3056&highlight=tobacco

according to the poll, half the people supported the ban

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Steven.
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Jan 19 2005 11:32
Fozzie wrote:
And, as far as I understand it, the ban in Ireland was on smoking in the workplace - i.e. to protect worker's health (especially bar workers). So perhaps there was a fear of employers getting sued by workers who've ended up sick because of passive smoking.

Yeah I think that's probably the rub of it (is that a phrase?)

I wonder too if it's to do too with the more general plan to get people to sotp smoking. Cos it'll probably have a massive effect on that. I mean I know I'll smoke a lot less if it was banned in pubs/bars etc.

I'm going to Italy later this week; looking forward to seeing how the ban is working out there (I cannot believe they did it. I mean Italy ffs!).

sam05
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Jan 31 2005 18:43

Just to say that the Smoking Ban here is doing quite well!

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