DIY
Oct 1 2007 13:26
Why don't people do more DIY things now? Is it all because money has become a thing easily to throw away?
People should start making t shirts, design their own t shirts, make clothes and things like that?
And even complain about buses and cars making this climate get even worse while they still travel 2 miles in their car to work and so on....
What do you thik of the D I Y?
Oct 1 2007 13:41
#2
DIY is a silly punk ethos that means little more than not paying bands, not flushing the toilet and rejecting some of the more useful aspects of modern culture (abortions, toiletries, etc.)
It's the same cult-of-self-empowerment stuff people from every counter-culture come out with.
Oct 1 2007 13:49
#3
eh. on a personal level, cool, go for it. a friend of mine makes a lot of her own clothes and they come out looking really beautiful and fit a lot more with her than most things you can get in shops.
politically, I could see some benefit if it's done in an organised way, e.g. having people who grow their own food in contact with one another to share what they've got, as a way of saving money. some friends of my parents have an allotment where they grow food and usually give my parents some of it; similarly my dad makes wine and gives it to friends. it helps cement social ties and has some very real economic benefits.
it irritates me that "DIY" has become associated with Crimethinc-esque individualism.
oh, and:
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And even complain about buses and cars making this climate get even worse while they still travel 2 miles in their car to work and so on....
1. what does this have to do with DIY?
2. not everybody is young enough, fit enough, or working in the right area to be able to avoid having to drive to work.
Oct 1 2007 14:10
#4
I re-wired the gfs shower the other day, without the instructions! Thats some DIY right there!
Oct 1 2007 14:27
#5
Dim Llywodraeth wrote:
I re-wired the gfs shower the other day, without the instructions!
Saucy.
Oct 1 2007 17:04
#6
redandblack17 wrote:
What do you thik of the D I Y?
What else you gonna to do on a Sunday?
Oct 1 2007 17:43
#7
ALL THE TRUE PUNKS ARE DEAD!
vivian westwood
that bassist
JOHNNY ROTTEN.
Oct 1 2007 18:26
#8
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If people want to make their own, I can't see that there's any political objection to it, though. On the other hand, I don't see it as being particularly radical either.
Self sustenance can be radical on one hand, if you look at reducing waste caused by the market and look to environmental impacts.
Allotments, permaculture, free-cycle and LETS schemes are all virtuous activities, but as singular political acts there not exactly earth shattering.
Oct 1 2007 22:43
#9
I know people who can make clothes and stuff, and it's really impressive. Occasionally I'll make my own t shirt design or something. I don't see it as being particularly politically relevant though, and I'm suspicious of attempts to claim a huge significance to it. There's no way I want a future society in which we're all weaving our own pants and making our own furniture.
Oct 1 2007 23:10
#10
DIY Zobag owes me a fucking waistcoat!!
I think it was a waistcoat, she definitely said she'd make me something 
Oct 1 2007 23:20
#11
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DIY Zobag owes me a fucking waistcoat!!I think it was a waistcoat, she definitely said she'd make me something
Out of her hair or something?
Oct 2 2007 01:55
#12
lem wrote:
ALL THE TRUE PUNKS ARE DEAD!
vivian westwood
that bassist
JOHNNY ROTTEN.
If only.
DIY's alright really for music, cos it usually means gigs are cheaper and have a more personal attitude. Other than that I'm not fussed. 99.9999999999% of clothes "made at home" make you look like a hippy idiot. I mean, yeah by all means "modify" your clothes a little, but you look like a fucking cunt with a waistcoat made out of your pubes. Prick.
Oct 2 2007 01:58
#13
I'm totally into DIY. I'm baking my very own frozen pizza right now. I got it at the store up the street and I drove there on my own. Anarchy rules!!!11
Oct 2 2007 02:36
#14
Yr bakking, thats so kool and diy 11!!! Maybe youll op3n up yr own bakery and be a c(A)pitalist scumfuck!!1111 DIY RULEZ!11!!
Oct 2 2007 04:06
#15
DIYers always seem to forget to shower their damn selves. Whats up with that?
Mike
Oct 2 2007 09:36
#16
mikus wrote:
DIYers always seem to forget to shower their damn selves. Whats up with that?Mike
Because it will bring down the system and stuff, you gullible pro capitalist sheep:
http://libcom.org/library/cleanliness-godliness-deodorant-crimethinc
Oct 2 2007 09:46
#17
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99.9999999999% of clothes "made at home" make you look like a hippy idiot
How true, but only because most people making clothes at home are hippie idiots.
Oct 2 2007 13:17
#18
october_lost wrote:
Out of her hair or something?
I hope not, I don't really want a pink waistcoat.
Oct 2 2007 17:27
#19
I think the political content of DIY is pretty limited, especially as in north america it is mostly associated with a crimethinc ethos. But for all that, DIY can be great fun. I just made a glob of cheese out of raw milk from a neighbor's cow. Damn stuff just oozes fat, I can't wait until it ages and sharpens.
Oct 2 2007 21:01
#20
Oct 2 2007 21:43
#21
Randy wrote:
I just made a glob of cheese out of raw milk from a neighbor's cow. Damn stuff just oozes fat, I can't wait until it ages and sharpens.
Oct 2 2007 22:12
#22
Alan wrote:
Randy wrote:
I just made a glob of cheese out of raw milk from a neighbor's cow. Damn stuff just oozes fat, I can't wait until it ages and sharpens.
I don't get it.
Oct 2 2007 22:13
#23
Alan wrote:
Randy wrote:
I just made a glob of cheese out of raw milk from a neighbor's cow. Damn stuff just oozes fat, I can't wait until it ages and sharpens.
Bourgeois pretenders used a boat! No fair!
j.rogue wrote:
Quit hatin'
Last night I dreamed I was Dolly Parton's guitar.
Oct 2 2007 22:28
#24
unless I've fucked up the link, google video doesn't make life easy 
Oct 2 2007 22:38
#25
j.rogue wrote:
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I don't get it.
Poking fun at rural Southerners, I suspect. You know, we're always milking cows, noodling for catfish and the like.
Oct 2 2007 23:17
#26
Noodling! I was going to make a noodling quip but I didn't want to egg on any of the inevitable hick-bashing.
Oct 2 2007 23:32
#27
I'd like to make my own cheese. I like cheese.
Oct 2 2007 23:44
#28
j.rogue wrote:
Noodling! I was going to make a noodling quip but I didn't want to egg on any of the inevitable hick-bashing.
Tis but the barbs of envy. Besides, stereotypes are wonderful time saving devices.
Funny thing is, the only folks i know squeezing raw milk from cow's teats are back to the land hippie types, not necks. The kind of folks in Alan's picture--where is Alan these days, anyway?--buy their milk at Wal-mart like good citizens. Their kids get sick, they go to McDonald's for a Happy Meal, since the burger contains the cheapest mega-dose of antibiotics available in the land of the free.
Edit: added links (just learned how, and I've gone mad with them. DIY dude, anarchy rulz!)
Oct 3 2007 01:51
#29
Woah, I actually meant that affectionately. As in, it was kinda cute. The only redneck I ever met was some awesome ex-commie who gave me free weed.
Oct 3 2007 02:11
#30
? No offense taken, I'm just carrying on (cutting up, funnin' ya).
It's probably more energy and resource efficient to make T-shirts and most clothing in a factory than making your own. It's called economy of scale. Do you think people should raise their own sheep, shear them, weave the cotton and yarn too? Is that kind of individual economy sustainable for the majority of the population today?
If people want to make their own, I can't see that there's any political objection to it, though. On the other hand, I don't see it as being particularly radical either.
I personally walk to work but I'm fortunate enough to live in a location that allows me to do so. The majority of people do not.