Is violence ever acceptable?

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powertotheimagi...
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Nov 29 2006 18:51
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A while ago, I came up with an apt analogy: suppose you needed to pee. And suppose there is a toilet available, only the entrance to it is blocked by an individual, who refuses to let you in. This person just stays there, while the pressure in your groin increases, until you can't stand it anymore, kick the "toilet guard" aside, and go use the toilet.

What is this creep doing hanging round the public toilets?

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Nov 29 2006 20:12

Hi

revol68 wrote:
i'm glad to see lazy's sticking to being a gobshite on threads i can't be arsed reading.

You love it.

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Violence isnt ideology, it is a tactic that is used when there are little, if any, other open options.

That’s no better than pacifism. If you’re going to do anything you should at least do it with a bit of enthusiasm.

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a fundamental part of this discussion should be around the perception of violence.

Only if we believe that the unacceptability of violence represents a credible assertion.

Love

LR

powertotheimagi...
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Nov 29 2006 20:25
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If you’re going to do anything you should at least do it with a bit of enthusiasm.

Do it with as much enthusiam as possible, just know its not an ideology.

revolutionrugger
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Nov 30 2006 02:04

"violence" is such an abstraction. By whom? Against whom? how violent? in what context? is it targeted? or indiscriminate? what ends are achieved? does it prevent or cause further suffering or unfreedom? are the participants voluntary? I think the general anarchist position on 'violence' shouldn't be pro or con, but rather anti-reductionist. Lets be strategic about use of force. thats what I say.

Side note the 19 year old male inside me has to say, "beating up nazis is totally cool and always acceptable, fun too"

revolutionrugger
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Nov 30 2006 02:36

whats really funny revol is that I totally saw that one coming, and hoped it would be you. smile

revolutionrugger
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Nov 30 2006 02:51

what do you mean?