John Bowden And the ABC

Black Flag "formerly Big Jack McTussoch"
Posts: 212 Joined: 26-04-06 Location: Kent
Submitted by Black Flag on 5 October, 2007 - 20:29.

I read in Class War that people on these forums have been slagging off John Bowden and the ABC.Why?These people need our support.

lem "feel free to check my edits :)"
Posts: 2778 Joined: 25-07-05 Location: Oxfordshire/Leeds
5 October, 2007 - 20:43

cos John Bowden needs nothing of the sort - he could find a Gang easily..

yeah it is kinda funny making hm out to be one very vulnerable inmate: better efforts; less "out there".

 
tigersiskillers "now slightly more sane, and that's official"
Posts: 241 Joined: 07-08-06
5 October, 2007 - 23:17

I think the arguments have been all played out here.

Basically opinion was/is divided among posters. A number of people felt that references to John Bowden's original crime were at best coy. Another point is that he was not a class struggle prisoner. Contrary to some descriptions elsewhere, other posters felt differently. It was a debate, there was disagreement. I'm not sure that repoening the discussion is going to be productive in any way.

 
revol68 ""Identity is a dream pathetic in its absurdity. You dream of being yourself when you've nothing better to do""
Posts: 17750 Joined: 23-02-04 Location: Belfast
6 October, 2007 - 00:56

the whole case is a fucking joke.

John Bowden got sent down for a brutal sadistic murder, then discovers anarchism/socialism as a means to rationalise ie state brutalisation blah fucking blah, some daft anarchists decide to present him as an actual political prisoner, it backfires on him and the ABC, other anarchosts with wit ask why the fuck the ABC would get involved with psychopathic murdereres, some of them get physically threatened by Bowdens supporters......

 
the button "jesus christ, john, have you actually even read any marx?"
Posts: 5636 Joined: 07-07-04 Location: Lewisham, London
6 October, 2007 - 01:09
revol68 wrote:
some of them get physically threatened by Bowdens supporters......

It's important to keep a cool head on these occasions.

 
revol68 ""Identity is a dream pathetic in its absurdity. You dream of being yourself when you've nothing better to do""
Posts: 17750 Joined: 23-02-04 Location: Belfast
6 October, 2007 - 01:13
the button wrote:
revol68 wrote:
some of them get physically threatened by Bowdens supporters......

It's important to keep a cool head on these occasions.

always.....

 
the button "jesus christ, john, have you actually even read any marx?"
Posts: 5636 Joined: 07-07-04 Location: Lewisham, London
6 October, 2007 - 01:56

Better than going all to pieces, IMO.

 
newyawka "They gonna eat your shoulders."
Posts: 2911 Joined: 13-10-05
6 October, 2007 - 02:22

it's time to cut off this discussion

 
capricorn
Posts: 226 Joined: 03-05-07
6 October, 2007 - 07:45

Oh no, not him again! When will his supporters learn that, in view of what he did, people here are not interested in his case any more than they are interested in the cases of Brady, Huntley or Nielsen.
Anyway, why is this thread in the "Thought" section. I can't see that his case raises any theoretical issue (except, perhaps, how in a free communist society would we deal with people who did what he did).