Midnight Notes: website revamped and relaunched
Jan 21 2006 14:00
The Midnight Notes collective have relaunched their website recently- http://midnightnotes.org
They were quite influential within autonomist circles, and had thinkers like Harry Cleaver and even John Zerzan in the group (before he became a mentalist).
The website seems to have the back-issues of their work up to the Midnight Oil analysis of the oil industry.
Jan 21 2006 14:05
#2
yeah, looks like they made it in frontpage or something.
Jan 21 2006 14:07
#3
And I Just realised, the picture is a link to a file on the person who made its C: drive.
Jan 21 2006 14:11
#4
John. wrote:
pingtiao wrote:
The Midnight Notes collective have relaunched their website recently- http://midnightnotes.orgStill as fucking ugly as ever, unfortunately!
Yeah- rough as fuck. Blinking text: No, no no.
Jan 21 2006 14:17
#5
LiveFastDiarrea wrote:
And I Just realised, the picture is a link to a file on the person who made its C: drive.
not good. should have a left it a bit longer before that relaunch.
Jan 22 2006 13:34
#6
I don't know, it's clearly internal documents. With the c-drive issue aside i don't really care about how the website looks if it's not for general consumption, and frankly you're not going to hand a copy of "Auroras of the Zapatistas: Local and Global Struggles in the Fourth World War" to your gran or something are you?
Jan 22 2006 13:38
#7
Nick Durie wrote:
I don't know, it's clearly internal documents.
Quote:
and frankly you're not going to hand a copy of "Auroras of the Zapatistas: Local and Global Struggles in the Fourth World War" to your gran or something are you?
Or for that matter, anyone.
Jan 23 2006 22:39
#8
Yeaaahh I don't know about Zerzan (he was involved with Midnight Notes? what???) but the early issues of the journal through the 80s are actually pretty good. Monty Neill, George Caffentzis, Silvia Federici, Peter Linebaugh et al. Lots of stuff on class struggle, primitive accumulation, and like, the political decomposition of the US working class during the 70s/80s. The website needs some work but have a look at some of those PDFs. (Maybe this is only exciting to US readers?)
Jan 23 2006 22:42
#9
MJ wrote:
Yeaaahh I don't know about Zerzan (he was involved with Midnight Notes? what???)
I think he's thinking of Zerowork?
Jan 23 2006 22:59
#10
Jack wrote:
MJ wrote:
Yeaaahh I don't know about Zerzan (he was involved with Midnight Notes? what???)I think he's thinking of Zerowork?
Yeah that sounds about right
Jan 23 2006 23:05
#11
Oh, yeah. That would make sense. Man Zerowork was such a mixed bag, there were such great articles (the Demac & Matera article on the class struggle in NYC comes to mind) along with such...
But were any of Zerzan's articles actually in Zerowork 1-3? I've seen his Organized Labor versus the Revolt Against Work cited in the same breath, was it included? The Internet says it was printed in something called Telos... Anyway it's a stern warning about where certain lines of thought can wander. Be vigilant![/i]
Jan 23 2006 23:07
#12
Is Telos that journal that used to be really awesome and ultra-left, and then slowly drifted to the right so far that it's now explicitly conservative?
Jan 24 2006 07:18
#13
i am a total MNC nerd, Federici lates book is the raddest
As for Telos, they are not conservatives . They call them selves postmodern populists in at least one interview. Andrew Fraser a recently disgraced Australian fascist law lecturer has been published by them and Alain de Bonist the french New Rightist gets a big role. Their position is fascist but more culturalist than racist. They argue that homogenous cultural identities have to be defended from big multi-national capitalism ( and black people moving next door)
cheers
Dave
Jan 24 2006 11:12
#14
Dave Antagonism wrote:
Andrew Fraser a recently disgraced Australian fascist law lecturer
!??
Jan 24 2006 11:21
#15
I didn't realise they'd gone THAT far right, I'd thought it was kinda just soft Republican. Jesus.
"Andrew Fraser, The Trials and Tribulations of Populism in Australia, Telos 127 (Spring 2004)"
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/academic-stirs-fight-over-race/2005/07/15/1121429359329.html?oneclick=true has details. Don't think he's fash, doesn't look like he's fash, just a racist cunt.
Jan 24 2006 11:39
#16
Okay, so he's raising fears of "national suicide" at the hands of an "elite" who introduces non-whites to the land, but calls his ideological opponents specifically "middle class"... why is this outside the spectrum of fascism again?
Jan 24 2006 15:31
#17
Yeah i suppose you could say they (they being one man paul piccone) ended up fascist. In that he went all Schmittian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt).
But it was a response to the inability of class/liberal/socialdemocartic politics to effect anything today in a 'postmodern' world.
Like most of the New Left, TELOS after the movement it was part of was defeated it needed to find a new social agent to bring about change. So TELOS ended up talking crap about the 'people'.
Think of 'the people' in TELOS as a more hideous theoretical deformation of 'class' than the hideous theoretical deformation of 'class' that is 'the multitude'.
Another, more cynical, way of looking at it is to say, because we're losing they changed sides.
Jan 24 2006 15:35
#18
Their journal is available on athens. I was well chuffed when I found it before I realised it had gone to shit.
Jan 25 2006 02:51
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Quote:
hideous theoretical deformation of 'class' that is 'the multitude'
Virno or Negri's , there is a crucial difference.
Many people might have read Cyber-Marx by Dyer-Witherfor. Whislt an excellent book it collapse many of the difference in the post-autonomia. For one Virno was not part of the publication Futur Anterieur with Negri , he was involved in Lugo Comune and whilst they travel over similar terrain they theorise things very differently
cheers
Dave
Jan 25 2006 03:00
#20
Yeah i noticed that. I've onlt read 'the grammar of the multitude' by virno and a few short essays. But there is definitely a difference. Perhaps most noticeable is that Virno confronts head on Schmittian populism, whereas Negri dances around it.
That said...
Even with Virno it is a consideration of a supersession of 'the people'. The multitude remains a beyond 'people'. And although that may be useful in critiqueing liberalism, populism and the state. For Class Struggle anarchists it really doesn't say anything all that new. Who cares about if 'the people' is no longer a plausible unity? Seeing as it was always a unity worthy of opposition???
Jan 25 2006 03:01
#21
Okay actually I care but you know what I mean
Jan 25 2006 05:19
#22
see i find multitude useful in the way that it shows that our indivdiual conditions and singularities are irreducible yet we are not just some atomized mass
I do not like the way it collapses a class in its self and one for itself into the same thing
cheers
Dave
Mar 7 2006 15:07
#23
Catch wrote:
Their journal is available on athens. I was well chuffed when I found it before I realised it had gone to shit.
Yeah I was looking for it on a college computer but couldn't find it. How do you get at it. Or is it just that my college is shit?
Mar 7 2006 15:41
#24
georgestapleton wrote:
Catch wrote:
Their journal is available on athens. I was well chuffed when I found it before I realised it had gone to shit.Yeah I was looking for it on a college computer but couldn't find it. How do you get at it. Or is it just that my college is shit?
infotrac
Mar 7 2006 16:31
#25
Dave Antagonism wrote:
Andrew Fraser a recently disgraced Australian fascist law lecturer
not the afraser who posts here??? i think he's from scotland.
Mar 8 2006 14:14
#26
newyawka wrote:
Dave Antagonism wrote:
Andrew Fraser a recently disgraced Australian fascist law lecturernot the afraser who posts here??? i think he's from scotland.
Nah not him 
Still as fucking ugly as ever, unfortunately!