Nihilism??

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Oct 19 2004 17:21

Can I be the one to make the Hundred Comment? grin

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Oct 22 2004 04:53

Well I suppose you can make the 100th post, but philosophicly it's no different to the 101st post, and equally pointless. wink

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Nov 1 2004 10:27
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history is NOT a teleological path leading to liberation.

Copied from the 'imperialism' thread. Would I be right in considering this a nihilist perspective?

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Nov 1 2004 10:30

also am I right in thinking that philosophical nihilism is the rejection of faith?

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Nov 1 2004 13:06
Logic wrote:
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history is NOT a teleological path leading to liberation.

Copied from the 'imperialism' thread. Would I be right in considering this a nihilist perspective?

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Not necessarily. I don't believe liberation is inevitable, and I'm certainly not a nihilist. And I certainly don't believe there's a 'teleology' (or end-directedness wink ) to history. For me, that's one of the main things that separates me as an anarchist from Marxists, & other left-Hegelian crystal-ball gazers. Or indeed right-Hegelian crystal-ball gazers, like Francis Fukuyama.

There might be a revolution. Then again, there might not.

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Nov 1 2004 13:21

Totally. In that case am I right in thinking that nihilists have no ideology aswell as rejecting the idea of a teleology?

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Nov 1 2004 13:24

As always, when you get to this point, it depends on what you mean by ideology.

If you think 'ideology' = 'grand narrative' (i.e. a theory of everything), then nihilism probably isn't an ideology. But then neither is (Button-style) anarchism.

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Nov 1 2004 13:25

You're right, revol. I said Marxist, although I suppose I should have said Marxist-Leninist.

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Nov 1 2004 13:34

But anarchism advocates participatory autonomous communes etc. whereas nihilism goes against everything and stands for nothing? confused

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Nov 1 2004 13:38
Logic wrote:
But anarchism advocates participatory autonomous communes etc. whereas nihilism goes against everything and stands for nothing? confused

Yep - anarchism advocates a certain series of tactics. Not necessarily communes, Logic -- I'd go for direct action in the workplace & the community. But preference for a certain tactical approach doesn't constitute an ideology. And neither does it mean that anarchism goes against everything and stands for nothing. Quite the opposite.

Look, I really should be back at work by now wink , but I suppose what I want to say is that anarchism is unique, cos it's not an ideology AND it's not nihilistic. Anyway, back to work.

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