Belfast meeting: Can Direct Action achieve change?
May 19 2009 18:20
#32
Bobby, as he will admit himself, has a tendency to make a lot of typos so I doubt it.
May 19 2009 20:44
#33
weeler wrote:
wsm_relations with other left groups wrote:
When discussing other groups with non-members either formally or informally we should avoid name calling or personal attacks. Criticisms should not be based on crude charactures of their positions or history. This may currently be standard practise on the left but for anarchists it should be unacceptable.The rules, the rules, youre breaking teh rulez!
Can anyone involved with anarchism spell the word caricature?
John09 is bobby counting to ten before he posts and using a spell checker.
May 20 2009 11:49
#34
Choccy wrote:
John09 wrote:
Choccy, the last time I checked there are not many 'non-affiliated anarchists' in Belfast.that's what happens if you only look in west Belfast
There are lots of non-affiliated anarchists in Belfast. Again, since youse have apparently backed yourselves into west Belfast it's unlikely you'll ever meet them. Many were at MayDay marching with Organise and 10 of them are in the Queens Anarchist group, so not affiliated to Organise or WSM.Quote:
Also, you have been proved wrong on belfast wsm membership and your earlier post that"certain sections of anarchism in Belfast to limit themselves basically to west belfast solely" SOLELY??
ah it's somewhat flippant, intersting you focussed on this and not the substantive criticisms of people like Liam who isn't in Organise
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As I have already mentioned this is obviously complete madness not based on fact given half of public meetings have been in the city centre and the other half in the west. BTW, branch meetings are also held in the city centre to accomodate all members.
The first one and perhaps the most important was held in the city centre. Actually the city centre was the preferred option for most of them, but was difficult due to venue and cost.
Choccy and whoever else, Is there anything you dont understand based on these facts?
ewww drop the entire paragraph in bold thing, it makes you look special
I dont have a problem with the fair question being asked by Liam in the first place. The problem is you Choccy who should probably know better.
I have answered his question well with facts rather than lies and dis-information.
I am not from West Belfast and I dont live in the West. Nor do I have a problem with organising public meetings outside of the city centre on occasions. The behaviour of some members of Organise(or disorganise) on forums such as this has always put me off joining such a group, which tends to spend most of their time criticising and lambasting others. It is probably the main reason why the vast majority of wsm members dont bother to post on these forums, and that the broad anarchist/libertarian movement in Ireland has no time or respect for Organise.
Out of interest, how many members of the Queens Anarchist society are actually Organise members? Is it independent especially whenever meetings are nearly always advertised as Organise/QUB?
May 20 2009 13:14
#35
Its bobby with a spellcheck. Awesome.
May 20 2009 13:59
#36
Who are you?
May 20 2009 14:09
#37
WSM National secretary from 06 - 07. I have also attended a number of meetings of the WSM belfast branch so dont pull that shit Sean. Im the reason the code of conduct exists motherfucker!
Who are you?
May 20 2009 14:56
#38
ok. Im not Sean. If you did attend some meetings could you please refute some of these sectarian allegations coming from Organise members?
May 20 2009 20:21
#39
John09 wrote:
ok. Im not Sean. If you did attend some meetings could you please refute some of these sectarian allegations coming from Organise members?
What do you want me to say? They are well aware of anything I could possibly tell you as I hang out with them. When I was in the WSM I never found Organise members to be sectarian, moreso they just have a very different approach to politics. They always put me up at their houses and so on.
I think the Culturlann is a less than ideal space to host meetings in fairness. Its not like the other 50 per cent of meetings are being held in a prods bar in East Belfast for balance.
May 20 2009 20:52
#40
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Members of the WSM are, whether they like it or not, anarchist role-models
May 21 2009 09:48
#41
Man, is West Belfast a bit like West Bodymore? You just gotta cross the Martin Luther King and they out slingin on the corners yo...
EDIT does noone have any response to my point about disingenous/rhetorical questions as public meeting titles?
May 25 2009 15:34
#42
Westies might like to think of it a bit like that (well except for the lawyers, headmasters, doctors and university academics that live in Andytown) but no it isn't.
Oh and glad to see Bobby has got a new name, and what a good name it is too.
May 26 2009 10:04
#43
He hasn't got a new IP address though.
May 26 2009 11:22
#44
So Bobby and John09 is the same IP address?
Jesus, that's pretty shady, especially as the John09 account seems to have been registered when Bobby last posted and used solely to talk shit about Organise and threaten members.
Isn't there a rule about 2nd accounts?
May 26 2009 16:42
#45
John09 wrote:
Out of interest, how many members of the Queens Anarchist society are actually Organise members? Is it independent especially whenever meetings are nearly always advertised as Organise/QUB?
Not a single QUB Anarchist meeting has been advertised as anything to do with Organise, going back 3yrs.
example 1
example 2
example 3
About three-quarters of QUB anarchist group are not affiliated to any other anarchist group.
May 26 2009 17:36
#46
Oh wow, it was him. hahah!
May 26 2009 20:56
#47
Choccy wrote:
John09 wrote:
Out of interest, how many members of the Queens Anarchist society are actually Organise members? Is it independent especially whenever meetings are nearly always advertised as Organise/QUB?Not a single QUB Anarchist meeting has been advertised as anything to do with Organise, going back 3yrs.
example 1
example 2
example 3About three-quarters of QUB anarchist group are not affiliated to any other anarchist group.
Except the CPE one in example 2 in 2006 mate.
May 26 2009 21:40
#48
Deezer wrote:
Choccy wrote:
John09 wrote:
Out of interest, how many members of the Queens Anarchist society are actually Organise members? Is it independent especially whenever meetings are nearly always advertised as Organise/QUB?Not a single QUB Anarchist meeting has been advertised as anything to do with Organise, going back 3yrs.
example 1
example 2
example 3About three-quarters of QUB anarchist group are not affiliated to any other anarchist group.
Except the CPE one in example 2 in 2006 mate.
Yeah I meant the 'what is anarchism?' one 
But yes, you're right!
actually, is John09 in fact Bobby using a different account?
just curious