Chirac's speech tonight

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Does anyone know where someone in the US can watch the speech online or something? And is there going to be a transcript of the speech available after it's over? Either in French or in English, I don't care.

Thanks!

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EuroNews might broadcast:

http://www.euronews.net/

And http://www.elysee.fr/ is his website, so i imagine they will put it on there

Welcome to the forum btw!

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will try and post something up on the blog asap.

i think it could be on cnn though, 12mins to go.

btw, sarkozy is making his own speach 30 minutes later. so this is of big significance

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france waits for sarko now.

chirac looks like a dinasaur. he looks irrelevant. what sarko says appears to be of far greater significance now.

but one modification, fuck all really. the lutte goes on....

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OUTRAGEOUS

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What his speech?

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will try and post something up on the blog asap.

i think it could be on cnn though, 12mins to go.

btw, sarkozy is making his own speach 30 minutes later. so this is of big significance

I'd like to get transcripts of both if possible. Oh the irony if this turns into a windfall for Sarko...

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Did u look on the site i mentioned?

i.e. - here

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got to say, the right have fucked this up.

sarko is backing jack,

but its a fuck-up. they look stupid.

he's passing the law, but theres going to be modifications wtf

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hey legba - please visit the north america board, tell us all about DC!

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anyone seen of any planned events to protest in front of French embassies on Tuesday, April 4, 2006?

I saw this post on a US site but nothing about any actions planned:

http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/67438.html

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John Monks, head of the European Trade Union Confederation has asked his membership to demonstrate in front of French embassies and consulates throughout Europe, in solidarity with a second mass demonstration and strike planned in France on Tuesday, April 4. It will be interesting to see if American workers decide to join in.

Please note: I said American workers, not American unions. True, the UAW works closely with the French union, the CGT on certain international matters, but I'm not holding my breath...

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see the French original at: http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-734511,36-756838@51-735413,0.html

My dear compatriots,

For several weeks serious questions, fears and criticisms have been raised about the CPE. Many young people have expressed their disquiet, their need for stability and security, but also their desire to take a full part in our society. Feelings that many among you share.

Beyond the CPE, the period we are passing through imposes deep inquiries: the future we are offering young people; our capacity to make our social model live in today’s world; the question of reform, and of our readiness to lead it all together.

I want to say to the French, I want to say to young people that I measure the impatience of all who wish to work and succeed and who do not manage to find a place within a firm while they have so much energy, so many projects and such talent to express. I also understand of course the refusal of insecurity which has been so strongly expressed.

I wanted the government to take action for equal opportunities, thinking in the first place of all those young people who, because of inadequate training, are in reality deprived of the possibility of finding a first job and who despair of making their way in the world.

This is the objective of the law on equal opportunities of which the CPE is one element. With this Contract, the prime minister, Dominque de Villepin, wanted to offer all those young people new opportunities for work: entering a firm; proving themselves there; gaining real professional experience, with a real work contract. To achieve that, the government decided to provide more flexibility for companies but also new guarantees for employees.

For several weeks the discussion has been unable to conclude and the situation has remained blocked on the question of whether this text should be maintained or withdrawn. The demonstrations have been a pretext for unacceptable acts of violence and destruction. The tensions have grown worse in the universities between those students who want to strike and those who want to work. A significant number of high schools are closed or barricaded. It is time to resolve the situation justly and reasonably, in the national interest. This is my mission under the Constitution.

Parliament, the elected representatives of the nation, has voted for the the law on equal opportunities and the constitutional Council has just found this law to be in every point consonant with the principles and values of the Republic. In a democracy, that means something and must be respected. That’s why I’ve decided to promulgate this law but also because I think that the CPE can be an effective tool for jobs.

But I have also heard the unhappiness expressed by many young people and their parents. And I want to respond to that. This is why I’m asking the government to immediately prepare two changes to the law on the controversial points. The period of two years will be reduced to one year. In cases where the contract is broken, the right of the young employee to know the reasons will be written into the new law.

Finally, I ask the government to do everything necessary so that, in practice, no contract can be signed that does not fully integrate the totality of these changes.

I want to speak to the social partners. I know their sense of responsibility. I know their efforts for jobs. I know their attachment to the values of the Republic. I know their desire to enable a full, constructive social dialogue in our country. I invite them, along with the representatives of the university and high school student organisations, to take their full part in implementing these new measures.

I want to say to them that the moment has arrived to move forward. Together we must work to end this shocking situation in which companies prefer to turn down orders, or relocate rather than recruit, because they fear excessive rigidity, while so many people are stuck in unemployment and insecurity. But we must also respond to the aspiration of employees for more security in a world of work that is continually evolving. This is the whole point of the great project of increasing the security of professional career paths and the fight against insecurity that I’m asking the government to conduct with the social partners.

Mamny students have also expressed real unhappiness about the value of their diplomas, their access to work and their future. Universities must remain places of excellence and the path to real social success. I ask the prime minister and the government to begin a wide-ranging national debate on the links between university and work, in order to make the entry of young people into professional life easier.

My dear compatriots, it is of young people that I think first this evening. They are the strength, the dynamism, the enthusiasm, the future of the nation. It is for them that we have the duty to act resolutely against the scourge of unemployment , of which they are the first victims. For, the goal, is obviously jobs. And the worst solution would be to do nothing.

For eleven months unemployment has fallen. Now is the time for us to make a decisive effort to win this battle together for the future of our country and our children. In this Republic, where the national interest is concerned there can be neither winners nor losers. We must join together again. And, everyone in his or her place must act responsibly.

Long live the Republic, Long live France.

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What a fuckwit.

The French are not protesting the severity of the law, they're protesting its necessity.

At least that's how I read it all.

Fucking wanker thinks he can buy off the people with the same object they're fighting against, just shrinkwrapped this time.

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For, the goal, is obviously jobs.

What's that shite? I thought the goal of the CPE was to axe jobs easier. How does one fight unemployment by creating it? I'm confused

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For, the goal, is obviously jobs.

What's that shite? I thought the goal of the CPE was to axe jobs easier. How does one fight unemployment by creating it? I'm confused

The right are using this as their excuse, basically it's part of the race to the bottom - if labour laws are too in favour of the workers there won't be investment and so there'll be unemployment. Axing labour protections will attract investment and so create jobs - just shit ones. Like the UK, or US. (Out of interest is the social democratic model in Oz/NZ more like the Anglo or the European model?)

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it's part of the race to the bottom - if labour laws are too in favour of the workers there won't be investment and so there'll be unemployment.

i like this phrase.

something very interesting happened to me when i was in the 3 hour queue for my semi final ticket, was standing with non-political mate, and telling him about this france thing.is quite leftwing, but just vaguely, iyswim.

he was saying that maybe it was okay companies knowing they could sack people etc, that otherwise things wouldn't work.

the turning point came when i started to talk about the uk competing with china, india etc. he was finishing my sentences. oh aye, we're fucked. etc.

some economist laughed at the french a while back - the french want to work 35 hours a week. the chinese want to work 35 hours in a day.

people get that if this competition madness is to continue, that we will be forced to compete with people who don't have the rights we've won. i don't think the left uses this argument enough. we've let the right push this myth that the west will always be boss, and that that will include the workforce somehow.

i think people of the left are scared to use this argument because its not particularly internationalist. a mistake i think- if it can save us having to enslave ourselves to global competition it'll be worth it imo

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people get that if this competition madness is to continue, that we will be forced to compete with people who don't have the rights we've won. i don't think the left uses this argument enough. we've let the right push this myth that the west will always be boss, and that that will include the workforce somehow.

i think people of the left are scared to use this argument because its not particularly internationalist. a mistake i think- if it can save us having to enslave ourselves to global competition it'll be worth it imo

I don't see how it's not internationalist, I think the only answer is internationalism. I was talking to my French housemate about the CPE stuff, basically saying that the answer to the race to the bottom is to try to reverse it into a race upwards: This would be an excellent result of the French workers winning this, the French state would have to try to get other countries to strengthen their labour protections, so France won't lose out disproportionally to the competition.

Workers here in the UK, we win improvements off the strength of workers in continental Europe via those European Commission/Parliament laws - like the working time directive and what have you.

The answer to stop work being outsourced to the third world is to try to organise internationally to win third world workers the same wages, conditions and protections we have here. This is internationalist.

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John. wrote:
Workers here in the UK, we win improvements off the strength of workers in continental Europe via those European Commission/Parliament laws - like the working time directive and what have you.

i reckon this has been going on since 1789 !

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The answer to stop work being outsourced to the third world is to try to organise internationally to win third world workers the same wages, conditions and protections we have here. This is internationalist.

8)

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Workers here in the UK, we win improvements off the strength of workers in continental Europe via those European Commission/Parliament laws - like the working time directive and what have you.

i reckon this has been going on since 1789 !

One thing I think could happen if the Frenchies win is there'll be a lot more pressure in the current legal battle going on to force British companies to let us take actual holiday instead of "factoring it into" our pay. Which would be awesome 8)

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I cant see how its not Internationalist people easily forget the term Inter in internatonilism means 'between'. Although most anarchists will disagree with me here as I believe in the usefullness of the state in the day and age of global transnational capital It can only be a good step in current conditions that the nation state claiming some soverignty on issues of capital.

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I cant see how its not Internationalist

you're right, as is John, what i am meaning, is that its not necessarily seen as internationalist, or perhaps seen as parochial

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I think so many people interpret Internationalism as being some kind of monolithic homogenising movement

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John. wrote:
One thing I think could happen if the Frenchies win is there'll be a lot more pressure in the current legal battle going on to force British companies to let us take actual holiday instead of "factoring it into" our pay. Which would be awesome 8)

I hate that so much, I didn't know it was under threat, who is fighting for it?

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John. wrote:
One thing I think could happen if the Frenchies win is there'll be a lot more pressure in the current legal battle going on to force British companies to let us take actual holiday instead of "factoring it into" our pay. Which would be awesome 8)

I hate that so much, I didn't know it was under threat, who is fighting for it?

The European Commission I think, some body like that. The papers here have reported it as "Europe tries to stop workers getting extra pay, forcing them to take unwanted time off" roll eyes