Do you want some?

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I would encourage unregistered lurkers to sign up and vote, I’m counting how many people are being reached by this site as part of a research exercise.

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this site has reached me, all the way to the heart of my bottom

Careful, it looks like some kind of shady pyramid scheme.

Phew. I thought this was a trick question. I got it right though.

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What does this pair want then? For everyone to open their hearts to Jesus? A donation to the MI5 benevolent fund?

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probably lurking nazis, and also that bbbbbbbbbbbbb cunt is probably bitter and just out to spite us.

no it's me letting known my opposition to the bourgeois seperation of economic and political spheres and the general assumption that all we need is security, i want to tear apart commodity relations not just because of fear of material poverty but also for it's imposition of boredom and alienation.

now fuck off you turbo powered social democrat!

Be nice Revol this is a no flaming forum . Totally agreed with first para.

What's this got to do with Organising?

Admin - good point

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Counting is organising. Regardless, I thought revol68 would come over all “it's imposition of boredom and alienation”. Oh…

There is no separation implicit in…

Maybe you don’t need it, but I do.

For some of us, material poverty is not a fear but a reality.

Walk me through some every day examples of commodity relations imposing boredom and alienation that working class economic security wouldn’t solve.

That goes for you to.

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Can't think of any? Me neither.

I've been sorting out one or two bankruptcies lately. Given the recent “I’m In” Oxfam adverts, does anyone here believe that real material poverty is something that only applies to people in the third-world? It wouldn’t surprise me in the least, John., revol68.

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About what 15% of the population here is unable to afford the necessities of life. And I've been amongst that at times. So no I don't believe it.

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Whatever. Working class people either do what they’re told by middle class people or join the “unlucky” 15%. A situation that being able to sack the boss would certainly rectify.

Then you’ve got all the people with ostensibly reasonable incomes but who are crippled by debt and enslaved by useless occupations. You might be interested in the number of people who are “home owners” but live in poverty, enjoy…

http://www.jrf.org.uk/knowledge/findings/housing/113.asp

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So watching channel 4 means you get to order ITV-watchers about? Great stuff!

Did you think I didn't know this or something?

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Absolutely. I’ve seen it happen.

I was just developing your point about poverty at home. Income insecurity is the number one (actually the only) oppressive measure exercised by the bourgeoisie over the working class.

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Right, well next time after Desparate Housewives I'll get some You've Been Framed viewers to get my tea 8)

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You laugh John., but I'm telling you it’s not far fetched at all. People who love a bit of Haagen Dazs and "Desperate Housewives" regularly get their house cleaned by "You've Been Framed" fans.

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My mum, a C4, BBC2 (and even Arte/TV5) viewer used to clean the houses of ITV watchers - and Mars ice cream eaters - every week. I used to help her. Or eat the mints they left out anyway.

Seriously LR, if it were possible, would you rather live in a Ken Loach movie than here?

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Ken Loach is the enemy, so no. I wouldn’t mind living in a Philip Jose Farmer short story though. “Riders of the Purple Wage” to be precise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riders_of_the_Purple_Wage

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wow, PJF is one of my favourites; i knew we were brothers under the skin 8) Just finished one of his earlier ones, Green Planet. Quite Vance-y