Are you...

Part time employment
8% (4 votes)
Full time employment
40% (21 votes)
Unemployed (voluntarily)
8% (4 votes)
Unemployed (involuntarily)
10% (5 votes)
Student
35% (18 votes)
Home-Worker (Unpaid)
0% (0 votes)
Retired
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 52

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3rdseason
Feb 3 2005 14:48

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3rdseason
Feb 3 2005 14:48

Thought this might be interesting...

For the purposes of this survey its probably best if students who have part time jobs choose the "student" option and only paid work counts as employment (eg looking after kids at home would be voluntary unemployment).

Steven.
Feb 3 2005 15:22

Presumably you mean looking after kids unpaid would be voluntary unemployment?

I corrected the spelling in your poll you bloody student roll eyes

Should I add an option for home worker (like housewife/husband)?

3rdseason
Feb 3 2005 15:25

Add a homeworker option if you like.

I was saying it was included under voluntary unemployment, cos you dont get paid for it. I think thats fair but undoubtedly some would consider it non-PC or something.

Lazlo_Woodbine
Feb 3 2005 15:36

Never mind 'PC' -- it's not the same demographic as a doley drop-out or professional activist.

3rdseason
Feb 3 2005 15:41

Yeah but you could keep subdividing into infinity.

Doley dropouts, 'fulltime activists' and domestice labourers are all still voluntarily unemployed and don't get paid for what they do.

I should have added a "retired" category for the sake of completeness tho maybe.

Caiman del Barrio
Feb 3 2005 15:47

I also felt under-represented in this poll. I work 32 hours a week, is that full or part time??

3rdseason
Feb 3 2005 15:53

What are standard definitions of full and part time hours in this country? Anyone know?

wheresmyshoes
Feb 3 2005 16:18

I'm a student but I get educational mantainece allowance so I don't intend to get a job untill I need to buy something really expensive.Having to get up at 7:45am on monday to go to 'communications' that doesn't even help my Alevels but I have to go in order to get paid is job enough for me.

Steven.
Feb 3 2005 16:31

legally full time is over 16hrs a week. Great roll eyes

Garner
Feb 3 2005 16:32
John. wrote:
Should I add an option for home worker (like housewife/husband)?

I don't think home worker's the correct term. To me, home worker means someone in paid employment who works from home, thus saving overheads for their employer.

Not too sure what the right term is though. Homemaker (ugh)?

Garner
Feb 3 2005 16:34
John. wrote:
legally full time is over 16hrs a week. Great roll eyes

Fuck, I'd love to only work 16 hours a week. Of course, they'd have to double my hourly rate. Yes, I think I'll go and ask my boss now...

Jacques Roux
Feb 3 2005 17:09
Garner wrote:
I don't think home worker's the correct term. To me, home worker means someone in paid employment who works from home, thus saving overheads for their employer.

Not too sure what the right term is though. Homemaker (ugh)?

Fucking strange (or not?) some people on the London Freelist are having exactly the same discussion wink

Garner
Feb 3 2005 17:14
rkn wrote:
Fucking strange (or not?) some people on the London Freelist are having exactly the same discussion ;)

Weird... Let us know what they come up with.

phoebe
Feb 3 2005 17:45

I rushed it and put "involuntary unemployment" instead of student, although in fairness I've been trying to get a job for over a year and still haven't, and if I could find one I'd probably drop out of uni if I needed to in order to chase it up.

lucy82
Feb 3 2005 18:09

Home worker could include unpaid carer and unpaid carer can also be parent. Maybe paid/unpaid homeworker?

Jacques Roux
Feb 3 2005 18:13

As two sep options?

lucy82
Feb 3 2005 18:25
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As two sep options?

yeah, as two options. then it'd cover someone knitting 25 bobble hats in a week for shit money as paid homeworker and then someone bringing up kids or caring for an elderly or disabled person as unpaid homeworker without demeaning the fact that either way its bloody hard work.

Jacques Roux
Feb 3 2005 18:41

smile

3rdseason
Feb 3 2005 21:28
Jack wrote:
Why no option for employers?

Employers are employed too.

Steven.
Feb 4 2005 00:57
3rdseason wrote:
Jack wrote:
Why no option for employers?

Employers are employed too.

Please tell me you're joking.

random
Feb 4 2005 12:56

so where do i put my full time parent tick? homeworker or voluntarily unemployed? neither seems right. im confused. confused

3rdseason
Feb 4 2005 14:25
John. wrote:
3rdseason wrote:
Jack wrote:
Why no option for employers?

Employers are employed too.

Please tell me you're joking.

Hence the term self-employed. They employ themselves.

Steven.
Feb 4 2005 14:46

Which muppet added in home worker (paid)? Cos there's already an option for someone in full/part time employment you dummies!

random - on this (quite unscientific!) poll you'd probably be a home worker, cos it's more like you chose to do that rather than just decided you didn't want to "work", right?

3rdseason
Feb 4 2005 15:40

IMO all employers are also employed but most of those who are employed aren't employers.

Employed to me means you have a job. So Bill Gates is employed cos his job is running Microsoft and being a fat cat. Hes also obviously an employer.

Not all employers are megalomaniacs tho cos the guy who runs the cornershop employs the newspaper delivery boy.

Yeah I know, this is all stunningly obvious. Thats why I was surprised you thought I had to be joking John.

Steven.
Feb 4 2005 16:19
3rdseason wrote:
Yeah I know, this is all stunningly obvious. Thats why I was surprised you thought I had to be joking John.

Yeah yeah alright alright.

Maybe *I* was joking eh? Ever think of that? angry

embarrassed

Jason Cortez
Feb 7 2005 13:41

What about us folks on the sick, don't we count you fascists!?

Rob Ray
Feb 7 2005 13:45

I think you'll find that's 'voluntary unemployed' under Labour's new back to work rules.

Refused
Feb 7 2005 19:58

For some reason I associate the "Back To Work" scheme with "Back To School". It's probably because I need to be sectioned.

lucy82
Feb 7 2005 20:18

regardless, the students and the full time employed are winning which means that possibly some people on enrager are working or students and that is probably what the majority of people would have predicted in the first place. its fun and everything (although not nearly as much fun as a party with badgers) but whats it for?

personally i think its part of a counter revolutionary plot.

3rdseason
Feb 8 2005 18:06

There was no useful point I just did the poll for the sake of curiousity.