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Thought this might be interesting...

For the purposes of this survey its probably best if students who have part time jobs choose the "student" option and only paid work counts as employment (eg looking after kids at home would be voluntary unemployment).

Presumably you mean looking after kids unpaid would be voluntary unemployment?

I corrected the spelling in your poll you bloody student

Should I add an option for home worker (like housewife/husband)?

Add a homeworker option if you like.

I was saying it was included under voluntary unemployment, cos you dont get paid for it. I think thats fair but undoubtedly some would consider it non-PC or something.

Never mind 'PC' -- it's not the same demographic as a doley drop-out or professional activist.

Yeah but you could keep subdividing into infinity.

Doley dropouts, 'fulltime activists' and domestice labourers are all still voluntarily unemployed and don't get paid for what they do.

I should have added a "retired" category for the sake of completeness tho maybe.

I also felt under-represented in this poll. I work 32 hours a week, is that full or part time??

What are standard definitions of full and part time hours in this country? Anyone know?

I'm a student but I get educational mantainece allowance so I don't intend to get a job untill I need to buy something really expensive.Having to get up at 7:45am on monday to go to 'communications' that doesn't even help my Alevels but I have to go in order to get paid is job enough for me.

legally full time is over 16hrs a week. Great

I don't think home worker's the correct term. To me, home worker means someone in paid employment who works from home, thus saving overheads for their employer.

Not too sure what the right term is though. Homemaker (ugh)?

Fuck, I'd love to only work 16 hours a week. Of course, they'd have to double my hourly rate. Yes, I think I'll go and ask my boss now...

Fucking strange (or not?) some people on the London Freelist are having exactly the same discussion

Weird... Let us know what they come up with.

I rushed it and put "involuntary unemployment" instead of student, although in fairness I've been trying to get a job for over a year and still haven't, and if I could find one I'd probably drop out of uni if I needed to in order to chase it up.

Home worker could include unpaid carer and unpaid carer can also be parent. Maybe paid/unpaid homeworker?

As two sep options?

yeah, as two options. then it'd cover someone knitting 25 bobble hats in a week for shit money as paid homeworker and then someone bringing up kids or caring for an elderly or disabled person as unpaid homeworker without demeaning the fact that either way its bloody hard work.

Employers are employed too.

Please tell me you're joking.

so where do i put my full time parent tick? homeworker or voluntarily unemployed? neither seems right. im confused.

Hence the term self-employed. They employ themselves.

Which muppet added in home worker (paid)? Cos there's already an option for someone in full/part time employment you dummies!

random - on this (quite unscientific!) poll you'd probably be a home worker, cos it's more like you chose to do that rather than just decided you didn't want to "work", right?

IMO all employers are also employed but most of those who are employed aren't employers.

Employed to me means you have a job. So Bill Gates is employed cos his job is running Microsoft and being a fat cat. Hes also obviously an employer.

Not all employers are megalomaniacs tho cos the guy who runs the cornershop employs the newspaper delivery boy.

Yeah I know, this is all stunningly obvious. Thats why I was surprised you thought I had to be joking John.

Yeah yeah alright alright.

Maybe *I* was joking eh? Ever think of that?

What about us folks on the sick, don't we count you fascists!?

I think you'll find that's 'voluntary unemployed' under Labour's new back to work rules.

For some reason I associate the "Back To Work" scheme with "Back To School". It's probably because I need to be sectioned.

regardless, the students and the full time employed are winning which means that possibly some people on enrager are working or students and that is probably what the majority of people would have predicted in the first place. its fun and everything (although not nearly as much fun as a party with badgers) but whats it for?

personally i think its part of a counter revolutionary plot.

There was no useful point I just did the poll for the sake of curiousity.