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How to contact IWW in Manchester?

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May 7 2011 15:53
Chilli Sauce wrote:
Perhaps I'm confused, and please correct me if so, but you seem to be saying that in the IWW 'there is a clear mechanism to deal with racists and fascists" that doesn't exist in "the wider 'anarchist/libcom' scene"? Is that what you're saying?

Sorry Chilli I should be more precise. By the "the wider 'anarchist/libcom' scene" I mean the multitudes who are not part of an organisation that has a clear mechanism to deal with undesirables. AF and SolFed clearly do have mechanisms in place and I would argue so does the IWW (though they are impeded by its 'legal' status).

knightrose wrote:
I can't help feeling that this thread about contacting the IWW in Manchester has been somewhat derailed by people who live in London and further south. Might it not be better to take your discussion elsewhere?

Ture. I think maybe a thread on the best way to deal with undesirables from the racialists to scabs is needed. Though it does seem all threads about the IWW are being "derailed by people who live in London and further south" wink

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May 7 2011 15:55
Steven. wrote:
I will try to respond to black rainbow later, but all the quotes in his last post are messed up so it is quite difficult to work out what is going on

Sorry I was in a rush. Maybe respond in a new thread?

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May 7 2011 16:41

BR, what organizations don't, iyo?

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May 7 2011 16:47
Chilli Sauce wrote:
BR, what organizations don't, iyo?

I really dont want to start a fight with those types (they're painful to deal with at the best of times) so I wont name them. Though I'll tell you in person next time we meet.

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May 7 2011 17:07
syndicalist wrote:
Sorry, I prolly ask this somewhere before, I can't remember.

What is the advantage to the IWW to register as a trade union?

Offical recognition of the unions right to organise (and represent which is problematic from a communist POV) its' membership in a workplace. I would also say limited legal 'protection' when taking offical industrial action but dire consequences when union organises wildcat industrial actions. Though in reality a lot of effective 'wildcat' industrial action recently in the UK had the active participation of Business union shop stewards 'driving' the organisation forward. So from a strategic POV I would say there are some advantages (not many) when legislation regarding Industrial action is taken into account (though that could change soon as some members of parliament have tabled motions to effectively render 'legal' industrial action ineffective and not forgetting the recent use of court action to stop industrial action). At some point it might be advisory for the IWW to tear up its legal obligations and ake a position closer to that of the IWAs British section. Presently with the balance of forces as they are I dont see the need to adopt its posture regarding bourgeois law.