last time the AF called a demo?

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Jan 17 2006 13:21
last time the AF called a demo?

when was the last time the AF called a picket, demo or action?

Is it a conscious decison not to have things that members have been involved in on the site?

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Jan 17 2006 17:02

We don't call pickets, demos or actions as the AF. But if you read this thread, and others, you'll see we're active in Defy ID, Anti-casualisation, we helped picket Blue Arrow during the early days of Gate Gourmet, we've been involved in antifa and so on.

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Jan 17 2006 22:23

I think that the AF used to do a fair amount of picketing and leafleting of embassies in London in solidarity with comrades abroad. There were a few joint pickets etc with SolFed. Also the AF has gone out the night before some big demos doing some publicity activity. They’ve also organised a fair amount of fairly well attended meetings on all sorts of things. I think that they’ve got a pretty good record — and often don’t get the credit that they deserve.

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Jan 18 2006 12:34

I joined becaise of a demo outside the Colombian embassy that the AF organised, in may this year.

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Jan 21 2006 00:42

They're up for it.

Over the years many militants of the acf/af have also been involved in straight-on physical attacks on members of the nf & bnp.

Sometimes in groups, other times in small sets of mates, sniping off lone nazis. (the taxi incident)

Some acf/af veterans were engaged in the heavy street-fighting with c18+euronazis that happened in the early ‘90s (Battle of Waterloo, Welling and the attack on the Little Driver pub).

I think that the principle of the af remains; practice into ideas / ideas into practice!

The af defiantly can put their money where their mouth is!

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Jan 27 2006 10:50

Thanks folks!

I'm was mostly referring to the website (of the AF) itself, i'm aware of plenty of stuff that AFers are involved with, and i rate that. I was just wondering about calling demo's as the AF and i've got some info on that.

nice one all smile

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Mar 7 2006 11:46
knightrose wrote:
We don't call pickets, demos or actions as the AF. But if you read this thread, and others, you'll see we're active in Defy ID, Anti-casualisation, we helped picket Blue Arrow during the early days of Gate Gourmet, we've been involved in antifa and so on.

This is a pearler!! No need to delete this thread eh when there are gems such as this.

The above could be read as follows;

"We don't do anything on our own initiative, because we can't, we have no needs and wants as a particular organistion of people (I hesitate to put 'working class' people) and therefore our entire existence is a parasitic one. Riding on the backs of individuals and groups who do things"!!!

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Mar 7 2006 12:49

bad form old chap, bad form indeed sad

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Mar 7 2006 15:06
gangster wrote:
knightrose wrote:
We don't call pickets, demos or actions as the AF. But if you read this thread, and others, you'll see we're active in Defy ID, Anti-casualisation, we helped picket Blue Arrow during the early days of Gate Gourmet, we've been involved in antifa and so on.

This is a pearler!! No need to delete this thread eh when there are gems such as this.

The above could be read as follows;

"We don't do anything on our own initiative, because we can't, we have no needs and wants as a particular organistion of people (I hesitate to put 'working class' people) and therefore our entire existence is a parasitic one. Riding on the backs of individuals and groups who do things"!!!

Or, alternatively, we prefer to get involved in campaigns as individuals and set up groups based on issues, rather than setting ourselves apart or acting like petty, sectarian wankers.

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Mar 7 2006 17:51

Truth hurts don't it chaps. BTW talking about your organisation from a different point of view isn't sectarianism, it's called JUSTIFIED CRITICISM.

You do nothing.

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Mar 7 2006 18:18

Gangster, you are talking total bollocks. We don't see ourselves as a vanguard trying to organise the working class despite itself. You'd probably be better off in the SWP.

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Mar 7 2006 18:43

Hi

Gangster, what action do you suggest? (Sorry for posting on your forum, AF comrades).

Love

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Mar 7 2006 19:38

Hi

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why are you in a group that thinks your a walking joke?

Mutya Sugababe asked herself the same question. Moved on…

I expect a CW comrade will have to defend gangster from Revol's unpleasantness. Maybe Revol68 and gangster should form their own organisation of outcasts. I’d join, what do you think our first action should be?

Love

LR

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Mar 8 2006 00:53
gangster wrote:
Truth hurts don't it chaps. BTW talking about your organisation from a different point of view isn't sectarianism, it's called JUSTIFIED CRITICISM.

You do nothing.

You don't actually read what other people post, do you gangster?

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Mar 8 2006 09:43

Seriously though, Gangster, why are you still in a group which thinks you're a joke. (Mind you, everybody else thinks that too)

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Mar 8 2006 20:00

i'd hazard a gues its cos like any of our orgs, unless they make moves to expel him, he is in.

What is ironic is that whilst accusing the AF of doing nothing, if CW were more active are more likely to have booted gangster. But as theres not a lot going on theres no need, theres nothing to disassociate from.

Sorry mate, but you are being frightully off colour on this thread, and i'm sure u know its true. Are you involved in the wombles new online thingy yet?

Tacks

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Mar 9 2006 08:52
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i'd hazard a gues its cos like any of our orgs, unless they make moves to expel him, he is in.

What is ironic is that whilst accusing the AF of doing nothing, if CW were more active are more likely to have booted gangster. But as theres not a lot going on theres no need, theres nothing to disassociate from.

Sorry mate, but you are being frightully off colour on this thread, and i'm sure u know its true. Are you involved in the wombles new online thingy yet?

Tacks

You know, I really don't care what other people think!! What rules exactly have I broken apart from speaking the truth? THe AF DOES DO NOTHING IN ITS OWN NAME - IT IS PARASITIC ON THE BACK OF OTHERS WHO DO STUFF. I don't think this is contraversial real world thinking - AF members have admitted as much!

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Mar 9 2006 11:01

Mate, you don't need one of those big red noses, you can do the job without it

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Mar 9 2006 12:56
Tacks wrote:
Sorry mate, but you are being frightully off colour on this thread, and i'm sure u know its true.

Do you not know gangster yet? He's been doing just this for what nearly 2 years now?

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Mar 13 2006 21:38

John, i know gangster and i knew his Black Hand incarnation before that.

I am also friendly with him IRL, cos he is friendly to me. Its a side point, but i reserve my real venom for people who are genuinely the enemy: i find it quite easy to be mates with people on the same side of the fence with different interpretations of the same facts smile

I hoped my addition would calm him down a bit, like a word from someone who ISN'T trying to rip the piss, but it didn't work.

It shall remain a mystery why some people who are nice people just go mental when they sit down in front of a computer neutral

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Mar 13 2006 22:10

Mr. T

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Mar 13 2006 22:11

revol there clearly offended by the suggestion that he may well be a nice person offline wink

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Mar 13 2006 22:21
Tacks wrote:
revol there clearly offended by the suggestion that he may well be a nice person offline :wink:

Revol's so nice and cuddly offline grin

I second what you said about gangster btw Tacks. Sound guy irl.

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Mar 13 2006 22:41

in fact thorazine your the biggest example of how we can all just get along - everyone loves you and your politics are... Er.. i mean to say..

Not that i think... certainly, some differences... um... grin

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Nov 4 2007 20:02

this was a bit poor really.

I've just found out that

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The original Anti-Election Alliance was in 1992 and involved Class War, ACF and...er other people including Dave Morris. The Revolutionary Communist Group supported it too. It was during the Class War Communities of Resistance period following (i think) the quite large Communities of Resistance conference in London. It rallied in Trafalgar Square and marched past Whitehall (I think - it gets a bit hazy, drink may have been involved). It was a respectable sized demo with about 1,200 on it

why not mention that?

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Nov 4 2007 20:40

can't we all just get along?

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Nov 5 2007 15:10

No angry

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Nov 28 2007 10:36

Answer to the question. Last Saturday.

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Nov 28 2007 12:36

ah the irony of OP having called it grin

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Nov 28 2007 13:20

What the blazes is OP?

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Nov 28 2007 13:23

original poster.