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What would 'success' look like for the AFed?

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Lazlo_Woodbine
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Jan 12 2006 12:00
What would 'success' look like for the AFed?

In my opinion, the AF does an important job, of promoting anarchist ideas, and providing a way for anarchists to talk about ways of organising, etc. However, what would a best-case scenario look like, what are we working towards?

For example, if we were a workplace/community organisation 'success' would lie in organising a greater and greater number of areas. If we were a campaigning organisation success would lie in having an impact on various developments, policies.

IMO 'success' for the AF involves:

Effectively spreading ideas about anarchism among the general public

Contributing usefully to a debate about organising, within the direct action movement

Being part of useful campaigns

Developing ideas, for ourselves and others

Organising a greater number of anarchists

Working effectively to raise awareness of anarchist activities in non_UK countries.

What do other people think about this? What role do they see for the AF?

knightrose
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Jan 12 2006 17:10

I agree with all your points.

I'd add:

Establishing functioning groups around the country. We seem to mostly be based on members in ones or twos, with only really a couple of active groups.

Working together on campaigns. We agreed to focus on Defy ID and Anti-casualisation at the last Conference. Manchester AF are involved in both. Liverpool and Nottingham in Defy ID. What about others? The Defy ID pamphlet is very popular. We have distributed well over 100 here and that has been solely through the Basement.

I'd like to see Resistance being read more widely too. And it being produced by an editorship rotating round the country. It's actually quite a satisfying task!

Lazlo_Woodbine
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Jan 13 2006 13:40

So you're saying that AF groups should, in effect, work as campaigning groups as well?

Do any other AF libcommers want to comment on the points me and Sir Rose have raised?

nastyned
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Jan 13 2006 14:40

Still thinking!

We are going to get involved in anti-id stuff in Surrey though.

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The Porkadian
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Jan 13 2006 19:04

Individuals getting involved within their own communities seem to be able to achieve loads more than any federation can, from what i see joining an established anarchist group does nothing other than take a few quid out of your pocket and produce a leaflet now and again, anarchism starts in your own back yard, join housing associations, do voluntary work , give advice to individuals about their rights ( CAB ) throw bricks at the police on friday nights ( just kidding .... maybe ) Im sure af and cw et al have their uses and I was keen to join not that long ago but as an individual searching out things within my own locality i have achieved more of my aims than I ever would have by joining any organisation based many miles from where I stay, no doubt im about to be shot down in flames by the high and mighty who resist and organise but in all honesty I dont give a fuck circle A

knightrose
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Jan 13 2006 19:19

Regarding campaigns, the Defy ID in Manchester wouldn't exist without the AF deciding to get involved. Anti-casualisation wouldn't exist without SolFed's impetus.

I'm not saying we should become campaigning groups ourselves, but that we should work together within campaigns we consdier important.

The Porkadian
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Jan 13 2006 19:41

why should it be that the af should only consider working within campaigns that they find important shouldnt it be a case that you work within campaigns that everyone that has the same principles and aims find important. As for spreading the ideaology of anarchism shouldnt that be more widespread than just larger urban areas , spread the word everywhere I say, even if it means just having one person in a large area having the same aims and principles its better than having none at all.

Im not having a dig at the AF ive been hassling the ssp in inverness for the past week about their lack of action in the highlands considering some of the local social issues that seem to be getting ignored.

I dont beleive that enough is being done , pontificating in news letters and forum boards does not achieve much, grass roots is where it happens and to achieve anything I do believe that individuals must be active in their own local areas and then organise these individuals into larger groups then you will start to see results.

Lazlo_Woodbine
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Jan 13 2006 21:32
The Porkadian wrote:
I do believe that individuals must be active in their own local areas and then organise these individuals into larger groups then you will start to see results.

I absolutely agree with this - this is how social movements are created. However, the AF isn't trying to become 'the movement', but simply to have a beneficial effect on the movement. For one thing, having a store of ideas and experiences so that organisational problems are approached with resources from the past is a good thing.

knightrose
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Jan 13 2006 21:55
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why should it be that the af should only consider working within campaigns that they find important

I suppose we do that because we are a group of people, not some automaton. We get involved in things that we find important and we do it in the areas where we live. We might sympathise with people active in other areas, but can't be part of their campaigns.

The Porkadian
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Jan 13 2006 22:36

but wouldnt it be the case that the more you involved yourself with other campaigns that may not be of interest but AF sympathised with it would give them a higher profile in which to put their aims across to a larger majority and hence increase support.

But also I spose everyone has their own things they believe that are worthy causes, what i beleive is worthy may not be what the AF judge as worthy and vice versa. wink

knightrose
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Jan 14 2006 17:15

Honestly, it's not some very deep reason. It's just that I work better in things that I feel directly concern me. We then tried to work out what issues like that we had a shared interest in.

The Porkadian
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Jan 14 2006 20:09

its a conspiracy black bloc smile