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Nov 14 2010 12:14
Mike Harman wrote:
Also wtf is this NUS recalling Lib Dems bollocks about - surely that just means putting Labour or Tory candidates in instead?

I think it's Aaron Porter's way of diverting angry student from taking direct action on campus and the streets and back to the safe terrain of parliamentary politics. He's quoted on the Guardian website saying (the right to recall MP's) it's a form of 'non-violent direct action'

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Nov 14 2010 12:35

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Nov 14 2010 12:38

Maybe the next protest should be at the Torygraph HQ?

BTW Tory hack beavering away for Monday's front page, that's Caimán with an ACCENT. wink

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Nov 14 2010 12:38
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I take it people have seen this article in the Telegraph, which mentions autonomous students a lot, and libcom.

We were thinking we should say something general about anonymity on here as a result:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8131296/The-lawyers-son-behind-the-student-protests.html

They also did an article yesterday on the bloke behind UK uncut (Vodaphone protests) - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8131060/Oxford-graduate-trying-to-bring-chaos-to-Britains-high-streets.html

Jason Lewis is named as authoring both articles, recently started as investigations editor at Telegraph, previously Mail on Sunday - http://www.journalism.co.uk/media-appointments/jason-lewis-appointed-sunday-telegraph-investigations-editor-/s8/a540300/ http://journalisted.com/jason-lewis?allarticles=yes

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Nov 14 2010 12:43

Admin: Please keep in-crowd banter to libcommunity.

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Nov 14 2010 13:14
Xander wrote:
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Looks like they had to put some effort in on getting his name - finding the registration of a group at a university as opposed to picking it up online.

Nah, he left a huge paper trail online, I checked after reading the article.
Starts from here, etc. - http://www.qmsu.org/groups/autonomousgroup/

That is to say this non-event story was piece together from elsewhere rather than starting from libcom. The stories will dry up from tomorrow anyway, new news cycle.

It really was a non story. HE WANTED A FLAG!!!!

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Nov 14 2010 13:19
Choccy wrote:
Xander wrote:
Mike Harman wrote:
Looks like they had to put some effort in on getting his name - finding the registration of a group at a university as opposed to picking it up online.

Nah, he left a huge paper trail online, I checked after reading the article.
Starts from here, etc. - http://www.qmsu.org/groups/autonomousgroup/

That is to say this non-event story was piece together from elsewhere rather than starting from libcom. The stories will dry up from tomorrow anyway, new news cycle.

It really was a non story. HE WANTED A FLAG!!!!

I thought weeler was bad but the Telegraph guy who wrote this is a first class cunt.

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Nov 14 2010 13:34

From our favourite Tory wanker

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Nov 14 2010 13:59

Jason Lewis
Pictureo Telegraph scum here.

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Nov 14 2010 14:08
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I thought weeler was bad but the Telegraph guy who wrote this is a first class cunt.

I think it's a complete non-story. The worst distortion in there is that it sounds like Sacco and Vanzetti actually committed murder.

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Nov 14 2010 14:11

TBF, it is on the front page...stop beign so blase!

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Nov 14 2010 14:16

The old journo solidarity......

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Nov 14 2010 14:31

People on here maintain anonymity. This journo scum broke that anonymity. I find it amazing how desperately you are trying to downplay this article, in particular as the same scumbag was involved in revealing the identity of a leading activist in the Vodafone protests, who asked him not to put his real name in the Telegraph rag.
Pretty fucking obvious why the picture was posted, so comrades can recognise the scumbag if he comes sniffing around.
Like i said, the journos close ranks....

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Nov 14 2010 14:36

Yes because clearly that's exactly what I'm doing here.

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Nov 14 2010 14:37

Yeah both this one and the uncut article in themselves are not all that exciting in terms of the actual content of the articles, but I don't remember any newspaper having done articles like this for a long time? Which suggests both that they're clutching at straws in terms of individuals to blame for the riot, and also expecting more to come.

edit: also I posted up about the editor for the precise reason that it's worth knowing who's doing this, don't think a pic is any different to that. in the uncut article it looks like the bloke gave an interview to them despite them having come to find him at work...

They should do one on Paul O'Grady soon:

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Nov 14 2010 14:51

More from the Grauniad

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The second reason, they say, can be traced back to the G20 protests in April last year, which triggered accusations of heavy-handed and occasionally violent tactics. The news vendor Ian Tomlinson died after being pushed by an officer and the subsequent fallout, two parliamentary inquiries and a national review of public order policing tactics, profoundly changed the way police deal with protests. Peter Smyth, chairman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, emphasised the psychological importance of Tomlinson's death for police officers. He said: "G20 must have been a factor in everybody's minds last week."

The Met's new softly-softly approach was evident just 10 days earlier when disorder erupted at a central London rave. Despite antagonistic elements within the crowd, officers largely kept their distance. People were allowed to move freely through police lines, a strategy in stark contrast to the notorious "kettling" tactic in which protesters are forcibly kept in a restricted space.

One senior police figure said the student violence had helped police: "To be frank, this will have done the commissioner a favour. In the past we've been criticised for being too provocative. During the next demo no one can say a word.

"You cannot stand by and let people commit acts of vandalism, threaten public property, damage public property. We have a right to stop that and sometimes we have to do that by using the appropriate force, and we have to be allowed to do that."

Seems like from now on the pigs will be smashing skulls free stylee.

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Nov 14 2010 14:51
Xander wrote:
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I don't remember any newspaper having done articles like this for a long time? Which suggests both that they're clutching at straws in terms of individuals to blame for the riot, and also expecting more to come.

Its more a case of, it was a really big event that happened mid-week and the dailies chewed it to pieces with loads of constantly breaking stories about how/why it happened. The only hope Sundays have (and they have a week to prepare their stories, hence them being the investigative papers) of getting a new angle is to do profiles of the people behind the protests. It was inevitable that they would do a bit more in-depth rummaging through Facebook and forums. Thats not to justify it, thats just how sunday papers work.

As of tomorrow there will be no market for exposés on 'ringleaders' and we will have a new story for the week, even the extinguisher one will sink fairly far down the paper.

It shows how fucked the Telegraph is that this is the best they could come up with, I would be vigilant but wouldn't lose sleep over there being more to come.

in terms of more to come I mean that the papers are expecting more to come in terms of protests, and also this gives them a handy story to link back to if there's another uncut vodaphone-esque thingy, or university occupations in which autonomous students are involved etc., I also doubt anywhere will be carrying all this tomorrow. The fire extinguisher largely depends on arrests, looks like the Reading/Cambridge bloke may not be prosecuted.

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Nov 14 2010 15:01

Thanks for telling me about the state of my mental health, doc. Incidentally when was I "promoting hysteria" ? I see no signs of that.
Yes, the whole thing was a non-story but it could easily lead to the comrade's employment prospects being jeopardised, ( as with the Vodafone activist) as well as providing info to the State and getting unwanted attention from them. So perhaps one should not be so blase as you appear to be.

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Nov 14 2010 16:26
Xander wrote:
On the anonymity thing, perhaps you should read the other thread because many of the comrades on here aren't maintaining anonymity and the one in the story is unfortunately one of them.

TBF, he used his real name to register a uni soc, which you pretty much have to do and to have not done it would have resulted in us catcalling him for paranoia. I'm not sure why or how they got his dissertation details, sounds like someone leaked it from his uni, which is pretty shitty.

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Nov 14 2010 17:27

It has my hometown and uni, nothing more no? No photos?

FB privacy settings are deliberately confusing...

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Nov 14 2010 20:21

Tried the link to Solfeds site. Doesn't seem to be working?

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Nov 14 2010 20:48

http://www.solidarityfederation.org.uk/hardcore-troublemaker-anarchist-group-laughs-off-millbank-blame-game

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Nov 14 2010 20:54

www.solidarityfederation.org.uk is not working, but www.solfed.org.uk is

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Nov 14 2010 20:59

Both work fine for me.

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Nov 14 2010 21:04

the homepage is working but other links are 404ing. it's been worked on as we speak, not sure what's broke.

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Nov 14 2010 21:07

http://libcom.org/news/hardcore-troublemaker-anarchist-group-laughs-millbank-blame-game-14112010

I've put it here for the time being.

Can we have a special tag for this? Students Against Cuts?

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Nov 14 2010 21:07

There's also http://www.solidarityfederation.org.uk/breaking-glass-building-solidarity

Does that not work either?

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Nov 14 2010 21:18

no, everything except the home page isn't working.

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Nov 15 2010 02:11

The site's back at http://www.solfed.org.uk/ where it will remain.
Article in question is here:
http://www.solfed.org.uk/?q=hardcore-troublemaker-anarchist-group-laughs-off-millbank-blame-game

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Nov 15 2010 03:19
Caiman del Barrio wrote:
http://libcom.org/news/hardcore-troublemaker-anarchist-group-laughs-millbank-blame-game-14112010

I've put it here for the time being.

Can we have a special tag for this? Students Against Cuts?

I'd prefer a general UK austerity tag or similar, but yeah something would be good.