Setting up intros/glossary/reading guide

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Setting up intros/glossary/reading guide

Yo catch, would be cool to start doing the sticky intros to tags/regions/people/etc and combining with our glossary. I thought we could just rename the no pasaran content type cos that's obsolete now - rename it and URLs to intros perhaps.

Then set up alphabetical order views like the directory from A-Z.

only prob with no pasaran type is that it's got the usual teaser which can't have BBCode in, which i think we need to have related tags right there in the teaser for quick access. Could this be sorted? if it meant we had to manually bold that wouldn't be a problem.

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Dec 8 2006 11:27

okay created intros content type. Fuck the no pasaran one, we should delete that content type too.

Also the stickies are still putting boxes round the whole page.

but yeah we need
- image background fixed (tho we could get round that using jpegs for the time being EDIT also see below)
- bbcode/HTML allowed in teasers (this will also allow us to insert full-sized images in indexes, and fuck it yeah will mean we don't have to bother about the above for now, cos there won't be black background; also won't be crappy-looking grey square border - which looks good on photos but not round graphics
- directory/alphabetical view
- shitloads of intros!
- some kind of name for this feature. which could be tricky cos it's kinda 2 or 3-fold.

can open up permissions when this is sorted to contribs so more people can add intros.

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Dec 8 2006 11:46

alright quickly - you need to go to settings for the content type and change the input type for the teaser before you add anything - because if you can't do that we'll have to delete that field and make a different one.

The sticky theming hasn't been used yet, that's why it's crap. Should be easy to fix.

I think calling it intros is fine.

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Dec 8 2006 12:01
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alright quickly - you need to go to settings for the content type and change the input type for the teaser before you add anything - because if you can't do that we'll have to delete that field and make a different one.

hey shit that's excellent - it's still auto-bold as well! any reason all teasers aren't like that? cos it's useful to be able to put links in them sometimes...

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The sticky theming hasn't been used yet, that's why it's crap. Should be easy to fix.

I think calling it intros is fine.

Ace. And auto-urls to libcom.org/intro/name ?

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Dec 8 2006 12:44

nice one fixing sticky boxes. one thing though, using HTML inserted images now doesn't let pic fit in box dammit:
http://libcom.org/sectors/transport

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Dec 8 2006 12:45

edit - also i should've realised but these now won't show up up in things like news/transport. spose that's ok tho...

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Dec 8 2006 13:44
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Ace. And auto-urls to libcom.org/intro/name ?

I think it's in admin >> settings >> path auto - it's really easy to set up, otherwise it'll have to wait until later.

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Dec 8 2006 13:46
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edit - also i should've realised but these now won't show up up in things like news/transport. spose that's ok tho...

we can change that - add intro to the content type filter then sort by sticky as well as date/alpha - if we want to of course - the wording would have to be non-section specific so it might be easier to stick to tags/tag.

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Dec 8 2006 14:04
Mike Harman wrote:
John. wrote:
Ace. And auto-urls to libcom.org/intro/name ?

I think it's in admin >> settings >> path auto - it's really easy to set up, otherwise it'll have to wait until later.

wow that's ace. had no idea it was so easy!

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Dec 8 2006 14:32

Done sample paris commune one here:
http://libcom.org/tags/paris-commune

but few things
- needs comments disabled - can't remember how
- it needs some way of letting people know that that sticky block has more introductory information and reading list inside. Maybe having link text "read more introduction" or something at bottom right?
- need to standardise what we use for links/related tags
- need to classify more info/reading guide to put introductory text first. Here I put it in Links so it'd be available from the index, but think there could be better way... "Primer" maybe? Primer, then Links, then Related?
- need some way of listing the books in a slightly nicer way, and explaining what the * is (from chris's guide: "Any book marked by an asterisk (*) is one we consider essential reading on the topic and/or a good starter piece for new militants.")
- get rid of "submitted by... on..."

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Dec 8 2006 20:33
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Done sample paris commune one here:
http://libcom.org/tags/paris-commune

but few things
- needs comments disabled - can't remember how
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I think it's admin >> settings >> content

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- it needs some way of letting people know that that sticky block has more introductory information and reading list inside. Maybe having link text "read more introduction" or something at bottom right?

Somewhere there's some code which limits the intros to a certain number of characters then sticks a read more link in. Should be alright.

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- need to standardise what we use for links/related tags

Yeah ideally it'll all be pretty much standardised.

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- need to classify more info/reading guide to put introductory text first. Here I put it in Links so it'd be available from the index, but think there could be better way... "Primer" maybe? Primer, then Links, then Related?

Yeah something like that - we can have three text areas in the content type if we want, and even have one optional...

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- need some way of listing the books in a slightly nicer way, and explaining what the * is (from chris's guide: "Any book marked by an asterisk (*) is one we consider essential reading on the topic and/or a good starter piece for new militants.")

Yeah could do with a better list - maybe the arrows as bullets?

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- get rid of "submitted by... on..."

admin >> themes >> configuration

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Dec 22 2006 11:16

right well i've done intros with logos to all sectors (shit i forgot to do services! maybe i did a logo at home...)
http://libcom.org/intro/claimants-and-unpaid
http://libcom.org/sectors/public-voluntary
http://libcom.org/intro/military-and-law-enforcement
http://libcom.org/intro/transport
http://libcom.org/sectors/communications

etc.

they need tidying up, putting all in lower case, then we need some link to all sector indexes in the new browsey menu thing wherever that goes.

also is it all ok? because we are going to do short intros like that for every tag/region/sector on the site. Can anyone think of any further reading for them?

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Dec 22 2006 11:23

also updated paris commune sample one, added key primer link to top, then split further reading into 2 - recommended and "additional". Would be good to have better name than additional though - any ideas?
http://libcom.org/intro/paris-commune

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Mar 26 2007 13:56

so is this paris commune one gonna be a model for all others?
http://libcom.org/intro/paris-commune
http://libcom.org/tags/paris-commune

as is now, the tag it's sticky in is now the first one in "related tags", not in "key links." This would seem to make more sense.

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Mar 26 2007 17:19

both of those headings are wrong I think, but can't think of anything better to replace them with.

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Mar 27 2007 10:06
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both of those headings are wrong I think, but can't think of anything better to replace them with.

but well we can easily change them later right and it'll change in all articles?

so basically i can get going with this?

will key links and tags show up even in posts where the field is blank? cos with the glossary anyway there'll be lots with none... hmmm i wonder if this'll work being the glossary as well... might as well give it a try i guess.

just need to set up some view with just titles in alpha order, but that can wait till we've done a couple.

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Mar 27 2007 15:31

yes

yes

no they shouldn't.

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Mar 30 2007 10:29

i've started moving glossary over now. just done this one:
http://libcom.org/tags/anarchism

taking stuff from chris's guide - which i could access except through google cache :???:

needs updating lots too, and links to those texts in our library need putting in. this is a biiiiiig job. could be quite fun though. non-admins could probably help out...

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Apr 2 2007 13:31

this looking ok you think?
http://libcom.org/intros-beta

can anyone identify any problems?

i know sectors need re-writing a bit...

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Apr 2 2007 13:38

stuff that's not in the library we should link to frontline where possible.

Also we need to kill all glossary entries which are book pages when it's moved.

list looks fine. Def should get views alpha pager so we can have a b c d paging for stuff like that. Why not teasers?

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Apr 2 2007 13:46

yeah if it was alphabetised could get teasers and thumbs I guess. i was just thinking it could end up being very long... and for a reference tool not that great.

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Apr 2 2007 13:55

yeah that's true. We could maybe copy the sideblock style - so not full teasers, but still with the thumb/intro text. Just need to fix css so it looks alright.

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Apr 3 2007 13:31

done up to and inc P.

needs going through adding more links, reading and images tho

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Apr 3 2007 14:25

right all old glossary done and deleted, except glossary index:
http://libcom.org/notes/glossary

alpha index for new intros would now be good. they're now all here:
http://libcom.org/intros-beta

also if anyone wants to go through and improve some definitions that'd be great - lib comism needs doing...

also adding in related tags, key links and more info - particularly from chris's reading guide - would be great.

also we need some sort of index, and a name for it! it is a glossary and a reading guide, and the URLs are all /intro/name. Introductory guide maybe? but them some of the reading will be v. advanced...

ideally the index will have a graphic on it, and a little description of what it is.

we'll also need intros to loads and loads of tags - particularly big events and famous people.

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Apr 3 2007 14:53

are we planning on using the drupal glossary module as and when it's available for 5.x?

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Apr 3 2007 15:44

i think not, i don't think it's suited to our site tbh, would be way too many words in it. i mean every mention of the word "class"? it'd be crazy.

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Apr 3 2007 15:49

true

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Apr 3 2007 16:20

hmmm, maybe groups need a little something extra.

copying my old intro to the situs, some extra fields might be useful, like members, texts, publications. unless we just put them manually into the article bit, which is ok i guess, since we do that with more info/recommended, etc.

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Apr 3 2007 17:27
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members, texts, publications.

yeah we could put those in as optional fields. Should be "people" though rather than members. You know how to do it? (admin >> content types >> manage fields >> add field

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Apr 4 2007 09:55

actually texts and publications, best to put in more info manually i reckon. put in related people though, good for groups, historical events and even people (i.e. albert + lucy parsons, etc.)

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Apr 4 2007 10:50

hmmm whoever did russian rev, i've been related tags n stuff separated by commas, not line breaks with libcom arrow for bullet points. i think as they're at the top of indexes should keep them as short as poss.

i've also added date field, so you can enter the dates in that, not in title. that seem cool?

added new thing but we can do manually, "subsequent groups" subheader in more info - done in solidarity entry:
http://libcom.org/intro/solidarity-0

and "texts" for text by the group/person