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Oct 12 2006 15:12
Key tags - important tags to attach to content

We use tags

we have a few big catch-all key tags, in which we should put all articles related to the subject. need to get this info down somewhere... in site guide maybe?

anyway, here they are:
fascism - all fascist, far-right and anti-fascist stuff - http://libcom.org/tags/fascism
race - all racism, race, multiculturalism stuff - http://libcom.org/tags/racism
strikes - all work stoppages or articles about them - http://libcom.org/tags/strikes
prices - all struggles at the point of consumption over prices (maybe should include rent? what do you all think?) - http://libcom.org/tags/prices
women - all content related to women and feminism (inc. biographies of women) http://libcom.org/tags/women

er, i think that's about it...

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Oct 12 2006 15:54

thought of more:
- old age
- environment
- immigration - anything about immigration or migrants

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Oct 12 2006 16:20

I'll donate £20 if you change the "women" one to "laideez", and leave it like that for a week.

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Oct 12 2006 16:53
revol68 wrote:
Prices??

What fucking numpty thought of that one?

Jaysus what goes in there? The Poll Tax, fare evasion, rent strikes, shoplifting, articles about the price of pints and mars bars?

Can you suggest something else?

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Oct 12 2006 17:35
revol68 wrote:
don't ask me to give legitimacy to this tagging bullshit. ;)

By posting about it in our feedback forum you've already given it legitimacy.

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How about not having a Tag for that as seperate, but rather having it as general class struggle, y'know maybe further sub divided into Transport or Food or Housing.

You'll notice we have tags for food & retail, transport and housing already. What we want is something general. Class struggle is a bit too general I think.

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If you had embraced anarcho syndicalism instead of listening to that Bookchin cracka

John, who used to describe him self as an anarcho-syndicalist, has done most of the work on the tagging, so don't blame it on me (or Bookchin!).

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you'd have known that the seperation of struggles around production and circulation is the first barrier to success.

The point of the tags is to reflect as closely as possible the subjective experience of class stuggle as it occurs across regions and industries whilst providing a useful system of classification to both enter and retrieve information, not to reify it into about six all-encompassing pre-defined categories so no-one can find anything.

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Oct 12 2006 17:39

grin

and bonus points for 'reify' wink

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Oct 12 2006 17:41

My first time by the way.

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Oct 12 2006 17:42

you'll always remember it, pity it was with such a dialectic-whore as revol wink

i just want you to know, that if you ever want to treat an abstract entity as a real material thing, i'll be here for you smile

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Oct 12 2006 17:44

it can have more than one tag you realise?

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Oct 12 2006 17:51

would 'consumption' be better?

(still vague, but hey)

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Oct 12 2006 17:58
revol68 wrote:
yeah, which is why i think one as fucking vague and yet (dialetically?) restrictive as price is useless.

You don't think the fares action is worth being categorised alongisde auto-reduction, filesharing insurance etc. etc. as well?

consumption - out of context, it reminds me of those 19th/early 20th century novels where they use it instead of tuberculosis or whatever. That's probably just me though.

Consumers? But we decided against categorising people over roles (i.e. we use fire service instead of firefighters). Consumers would be clearer, but it's not better.

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Oct 12 2006 17:58
revol68 wrote:
no, you fucking fanny of course it wouldn't be.

I think it should envelope both consumption and production, so say a tag like, Health or Transport or Technology.

like sector tags, which are there already roll eyes

they're after an analog of 'strikes' for circulation-skewed resistance: rent strikes, self-reduction etc

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Oct 12 2006 18:01
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Health or Transport or Technology.

You mean like these?

http://libcom.org/sectors/health-medicine

http://libcom.org/sectors/transport

They'll be used where appropriate, but we want to have something that covers consumption specifically, because people consume things.

edit: JK beat me to it.

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Oct 12 2006 18:03

ok, thanks for the critique of separation.

stop negating for a minute ... do you think all working class direct action should therefore have a single tag then?

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Oct 12 2006 18:04

Do you think strikes, general strikes and wildcat strikes are worth having specific tags for? All strikes go in the first, the latter are used where appropriate.

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Oct 12 2006 18:09

how about a sort of 2-tier hierarchy then?

1. direct action (the catch-all)

2. strikes, wildcat strikes, general strikes, auto-reduction, rent strikes etc

which could then be combined with sectors etc as appropriate?

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Oct 12 2006 18:24

transport + strikes

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Oct 12 2006 18:25

or just transport confused

Do you not think it's worth having rent strikes, auto-reduction and fare strikes together as well?

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Oct 12 2006 18:33

SFA hey tongue

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Oct 12 2006 22:22

jesus christ revol, what is the matter with you?

we have tags which group all strikes together, we have tags that group all industrial things together (like transport and buses) and wanted a tag to bring all "auto-reduction" stuff together. roll eyes